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by: scooter12 - Sept 9, 2013 19:06:34 GMT -5
Post by scooter12 on Sept 9, 2013 19:06:34 GMT -5
Well, tires are my subject.. They still make 120/  10 tires, it is hard to find Rated 66 for load capacity meaning 660 lbs.. The Honda Helix rear tire is the same size as the Bali 250, but all places seem out of stock or have only a Rated 65 Helix tire( weight capacity of 330). I bought a 120/ 10 tire Speed rate P 75 mph and a weight capacity of 57 which means 507 lbs is the max weight. The bail 250 weighs 271 and I weigh 175 lbs= 446 lbs. Helmet weight, jacket, boots, 3 gallons gas plus quart of oil and anti freeze put me at about 480 lbs. Might have to set the saddlebags off for a while. So it is hard to find my size of scooter tires now. The front tire uses a 4.00 x 12 tire. It also says 110/ 12 will fit also, so that is the tire I been searching for. So I found some 110/ 12 tire, rated P for  mph, 64 for weight capacity of 617 lbs. They had no rated 66 for 660 lbs. Are the tire companies and Roketa going to stop making Bali 250's and Honda stopping the Helix tires. Can't find any tires rated 66 for 660 lbs.. |
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by: scooter12 - Sept 9, 2013 20:00:11 GMT -5
Post by scooter12 on Sept 9, 2013 20:00:11 GMT -5
What concerns me about buying different weight capacity tires, is having a blow out. I mean, the tires have a safety warning saying changing the load capacity or speed rating can be dangerous. It is ok to change to size greater than original equipment. Well I bought under original equipment because no one has my original equipment. Last tire I ordered through Roketa it was in 2010. The tire was 3 years old. Now with 3 1/2 years on it, the tire is dated as a 6 1/2 year old tire. So I don't want to pay Roketa $80 for a 3 year old tire. I spoke online with a person whom claimed I should be ok with the tire purchased from the Motorcycle Superstore. Should be--- it concerns me a bit..
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by: skuttadawg - Sept 9, 2013 22:17:04 GMT -5
Post by skuttadawg on Sept 9, 2013 22:17:04 GMT -5
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by: shalomrider - Sept 9, 2013 22:55:04 GMT -5
Post by shalomrider on Sept 9, 2013 22:55:04 GMT -5
howdy, maybe i mis understand , but isn't 446 devided by two =223. why the worry about weight rating? in no case then, would you be over 300 pounds on the rear tire. speed rating would certainly be a concern.
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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by: scooter12 - Sept 9, 2013 23:02:15 GMT -5
Post by scooter12 on Sept 9, 2013 23:02:15 GMT -5
Chinese rear tire sale $19.  120/ 10.. Tire is Nov 2009. This is what I am talking about. I did not look at shipping- $20 extra.. Freakin nuts.. skuttadawg, I looked at the tires you sent me to, but Amazon has the same tires for less. The one I ordered and got in 2 days was a Michelin Bobber tire. It is better than Chinese crap. lol The tire is 507 load capacity but L rated for 75 mph. Costed $36 with free shipping and 9 month old. The tire experts say don't use a tire past 6 years old, but Roketa is trying to sale tires 4 years old. |
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by: skuttadawg - Sept 9, 2013 23:06:00 GMT -5
Post by skuttadawg on Sept 9, 2013 23:06:00 GMT -5
I too have found better prices on many thing at Amazon myself , but that place seems to have it easier to find by size and a large selection so you can see what is out there .
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by: rockynv - Sept 10, 2013 4:25:31 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Sept 10, 2013 4:25:31 GMT -5
Tire capacity ratings are usually for the indivudual tire so two 660 lb capacity tires would usually be for a 1,320 lb GVW.
Were the original 660 lb load rated tires really required or just potentially what they had lying around?
Remember the rule of thumb is that automotive tires are generally safe for 5 years from date of manufacture motor bike tires are only considered safe for 2 years.
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by: SylvreKat - Sept 10, 2013 6:06:10 GMT -5
Post by SylvreKat on Sept 10, 2013 6:06:10 GMT -5
Remember the rule of thumb is that automotive tires are generally safe for 5 years from date of manufacture motor bike tires are only considered safe for 2 years. If that's true, then I'll be constantly replacing pretty unused tires with comparatively low miles. Car and bike. >'Kat |
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by: rockynv - Sept 10, 2013 12:43:56 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Sept 10, 2013 12:43:56 GMT -5
Remember the rule of thumb is that automotive tires are generally safe for 5 years from date of manufacture motor bike tires are only considered safe for 2 years. If that's true, then I'll be constantly replacing pretty unused tires with comparatively low miles. Car and bike. >'Kat There is a warehouse full of rolled over cars and binned bikes in Tallahassee to prove it. The State is being pressured to pass legislature to prevent tire dealers from selling new or used tires that have date stamps over 5 years old for cars and 2 years old for bikes. Too many folks have been dying on our highways due to the old tires |
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by: shalomrider - Sept 10, 2013 19:05:09 GMT -5
Post by shalomrider on Sept 10, 2013 19:05:09 GMT -5
howdy--i don't need anyone making more rules for me in favor of the people that manufacture and sell the required items. bozz off
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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by: rockynv - Sept 11, 2013 12:13:12 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Sept 11, 2013 12:13:12 GMT -5
Actually you do otherwise you would be one of the folks cheated and potentially riding off to your death because of these criminals selling vehicles with tires past their resonable expiration date or selling old stock tires which had been sitting in a warehouse for or out frount of service stations for several years that are no longer safe representing them as new. Most of the roll-over accidents we have here are from old tires many times just recently sold and mounted as new only to blow out a few miles and minutes down the highway leading to a roll-over and fatalities. Many times these crooks take the old stock tires that reputable dealers sent for disposal as unsafe, clean them up to sell them as new current stock. These tires not matter what dressing has been put on them are still rotten and it is really feloneous endangerment when they sell these old tires to folks and put them on their vehicles.
If some in front of you has even just a tread seperation without a blowout or loss of countrol the treads hitting you can take you off your bike or the belts can open a vein and bleed you out even if you don't loose control.
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by: shalomrider - Sept 11, 2013 17:22:46 GMT -5
Post by shalomrider on Sept 11, 2013 17:22:46 GMT -5
howdy and peace bro, but even though i agree with all you said, i must still insist that it is the buyer that needs to have the study info and make the decision. maybe the tires will be on a farm vehicle that never exceeds 30 mph. if two year old tires are safer than 5 year old tires then we really should replace our tires every 3 month. tha's obviously safer. if 55 mph is safer than 70 then maybe 30 mph is safer. getting out of bed brings risk. i have spent my life driving trucks and if i see a motorcycle in a position relative to my truck, i take the action to get him out of that danger. if you as a scooter driver know that a blow-out on that truck you are following will kill you , then don't follow it that close. i still don't need a beurocrat dogooder to tell me what i have to do like mrs obama telling the school lunch system that they can only serve what the kids won't eat and limiting sports participaters like marathon or long distance or football players to 1000 calories cause that's what is good for them. one size doesn't fit all
with all respect
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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by: shalomrider - Sept 11, 2013 17:25:24 GMT -5
Post by shalomrider on Sept 11, 2013 17:25:24 GMT -5
i lost the first and better reply by pushing the wrong button--
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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by: gregw - Sept 11, 2013 17:28:53 GMT -5
Post by gregw on Sept 11, 2013 17:28:53 GMT -5
howdy--i don't need anyone making more rules for me in favor of the people that manufacture and sell the required items. bozz off Ha! My thoughts exactly... If the rubber looks good, run it! |
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by: rockynv - Sept 12, 2013 22:31:57 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Sept 12, 2013 22:31:57 GMT -5
A tire has an expiration date based on the year of manufacture end of story. Push them beyond that and you are playing Russian Roulette with your own or someone elses life. Sellers of vehicles and tires should be held accountable for selling unsafe products and held to it. Even tires that the manufacturer rates as lasting beyond the 5 year mark for 4 or more wheeled vehicles require that the tire be dismounted and inspected annually after the fifth year from date of manufacture.
Just like medicine, food and other products with a shelf life we do need to hold people accountable for selling products that have expired and are unsafe.
Most people scream when someone sells rotten food or expired medicine yet find the sale of rotten past expiration date tires is acceptable?
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10 tires, it is hard to find Rated 66 for load capacity meaning 660 lbs.. The Honda Helix rear tire is the same size as the Bali 250, but all places seem out of stock or have only a Rated 65 Helix tire( weight capacity of 330). I bought a 120/
mph, 64 for weight capacity of 617 lbs. They had no rated 66 for 660 lbs. Are the tire companies and Roketa going to stop making Bali 250's and Honda stopping the Helix tires. Can't find any tires rated 66 for 660 lbs.. 
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