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by: Jarlaxle - Oct 26, 2013 6:52:11 GMT -5
Post by Jarlaxle on Oct 26, 2013 6:52:11 GMT -5
I have never seen a scoot that WASN'T rear-heavy! The rider and the engine are BOTH behind the centerline.
Only 10" car tire I have seen is on old Minis.
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by: ltdhpp - Oct 26, 2013 11:12:54 GMT -5
Post by ltdhpp on Oct 26, 2013 11:12:54 GMT -5
Its quite a debate here! I think there are too may variables present to make this a black and white issue... In general, quality and longevity I'm sure we can all agree varies between manufacturers for all products, and "they don't make them like they used to"... Also the way a tire is stored, as mentioned, makes a huge difference.
I always find myself in the middle of most debates and usually can entertain both sides when there is not enough definite evidence for a conclusion. It is not unwise to err in the side of caution, even if you could have saved some money you have still not made a bad investment.
I think the most important thing is for consumers to be aware of what they are getting, to be informed of possible potential dangers so they can decide for themselves if they want to only put older/used tires on their dump-truck or beater-backup vehicle and not the road trip car.
I also think that if there was a chance to boost the sale of new tires (being made from oil these days) legislators would already be all over it.
Here's a few random titbits about my experience, habits, and info about the issue:
I am a VA state vehicle safety inspector - currently there is no state code about the age of a tire. Only if steel/chord is visible through dry rot or if tread is starting to separate can you fail it. Or if there is evidence of belt separation, or wear below the limit. Of course, we inform the customer about any borderline severe rot or if they are over 10 years old.
Around 2011, a member of a ford sedan message board I am on got access to a PA government auction of tires that are used on the Crown Vic police cars. We made a group buy, he got a whole pallet full of Goodyear Eagle RSA 225/60/16 at $35 each. We were pleased to find they were date stamped 2008. They were not defects that he was aware of, just surplus. They had to be getting rid of them for a reason... the newer ones use 17" tires but there are still plenty of 16" squad cars on the road... But you're dang right I bough a set... the two on now are still fantastic, and I'm sure I won't hesitate to use the other two, after a good inspection. No reports of any problems, yet.
Also, my basement has a couple to-the-ceiling stacks of used tires I have carried home with varying age and mild dry rot. I do rotate out the older ones as I score newer ones, but so far between 4 large vehicles, two that see regular highway travel, I've had no problems. BUT, I am prepared to accept the consequences of a blowout. AND, if I had a wife and child, I would absolutely not play the old/used tire game with what they primarily ride in.
One of the first things I did to the Reflex was replace the decent (aside from some feathering) 2006 front tire with a new-new one. This game gets SO much more potentially risky on 2 wheels.
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by: rockynv - Oct 28, 2013 4:16:04 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Oct 28, 2013 4:16:04 GMT -5
One blowout or tread off on a 5 year old tire is all it takes. I was fortunate that my new looking Goodyear long life G670 that failed at a touch over 5 years was part of a dual pair on the rear axle and the other tire held. I had checked the pressure which was spot on just minutes before I drove off too. The Tread Gator did a lot of undercarriage damage when it came off making the vehicle undrivable and untowable until the damaged components had been either removed or pried away with the exhaust, brake and fuel lines verified intact. Thankfully the tread belt did not hit another vehicle and cause a crash. It would have been devistating if the frayed steel mesh and rubber had hit someone on a scooter or motorcycle.
This is more so something that you do not want to take any chances with when riding on 2 wheels.
In Virginia it won't be as big a problem as in the Deep South but then again why roll that dice considering the consequences. You only get one you and don't want to be responsible for taking someone else out if your old tire fails.
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