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by: shalomdawg - Oct 14, 2013 19:46:46 GMT -5
Post by shalomdawg on Oct 14, 2013 19:46:46 GMT -5
howdy, agreed, a two wheeled vehicle is another kettle of fish, i was only responding to the apparent idea that a blow out on a four wheeled (or more) vehicle will cause an accident, which is not so as long as the driver doesn't over-react. one needs to change your driving to adapt to poor tires if indeed you are using them, as in don't bomb the corners where there is a tiny guardrail separating you from a 1000 ft cliff. some uncommon sense is in order.
lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken
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by: rockynv - Oct 14, 2013 21:08:10 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Oct 14, 2013 21:08:10 GMT -5
howdy, agreed, a two wheeled vehicle is another kettle of fish, i was only responding to the apparent idea that a blow out on a four wheeled (or more) vehicle will cause an accident, which is not so as long as the driver doesn't over-react. one needs to change your driving to adapt to poor tires if indeed you are using them, as in don't bomb the corners where there is a tiny guardrail separating you from a 1000 ft cliff. some uncommon sense is in order. lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken Problem is that most drivers don't have the training or presence of mind to react appropriately as evidenced by the warehouse full of crashed vehicle with new looking blown out or separated tires over 5 years old presented to the Florida State Legislature. Even those with CDL training who should know better hesitate to tromp down on the gas to stabilize and end up rolling trucks and buses.
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by: shalomdawg - Oct 15, 2013 20:20:16 GMT -5
Post by shalomdawg on Oct 15, 2013 20:20:16 GMT -5
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by: Jarlaxle - Oct 17, 2013 10:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by Jarlaxle on Oct 17, 2013 10:37:39 GMT -5
Yet again: Please provide actual EVIDENCE of this alleged "warehouse" full of wrecked cars! Continuing to repeat an assertion does not make it a fact! howdy, agreed, a two wheeled vehicle is another kettle of fish, i was only responding to the apparent idea that a blow out on a four wheeled (or more) vehicle will cause an accident, which is not so as long as the driver doesn't over-react. one needs to change your driving to adapt to poor tires if indeed you are using them, as in don't bomb the corners where there is a tiny guardrail separating you from a 1000 ft cliff. some uncommon sense is in order. lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken Problem is that most drivers don't have the training or presence of mind to react appropriately as evidenced by the warehouse full of crashed vehicle with new looking blown out or separated tires over 5 years old presented to the Florida State Legislature. Even those with CDL training who should know better hesitate to tromp down on the gas to stabilize and end up rolling trucks and buses.
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by: alleyoop - Oct 17, 2013 13:11:31 GMT -5
Post by alleyoop on Oct 17, 2013 13:11:31 GMT -5
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by: rockynv - Oct 18, 2013 7:37:39 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Oct 18, 2013 7:37:39 GMT -5
Yet again: Please provide actual EVIDENCE of this alleged "warehouse" full of wrecked cars! Continuing to repeat an assertion does not make it a fact! Problem is that most drivers don't have the training or presence of mind to react appropriately as evidenced by the warehouse full of crashed vehicle with new looking blown out or separated tires over 5 years old presented to the Florida State Legislature. Even those with CDL training who should know better hesitate to tromp down on the gas to stabilize and end up rolling trucks and buses. www.wftv.com/news/news/local/tire-shelf-life-blamed-number-central-florida-cras/nS93g/Bottom line Orlando attorney Rich Newsome’s evidence warehouse is filled with wrecked cars and it is this warehouse that was presented to the State Legislature I believe through the efforts of Rep. Jason Brodeur, R-Sanford. Now will you stop trolling?
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by: Jarlaxle - Oct 18, 2013 8:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by Jarlaxle on Oct 18, 2013 8:22:58 GMT -5
I am not in the tire business, I never have been. Please remove your libelous statement immediately.
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by: scootnwinn - Oct 18, 2013 8:33:23 GMT -5
Post by scootnwinn on Oct 18, 2013 8:33:23 GMT -5
Wow so much sadness here
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by: rockynv - Oct 18, 2013 10:11:29 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Oct 18, 2013 10:11:29 GMT -5
I am not in the tire business, I never have been. Please remove your libelous statement immediately. You kinda indicated either direct involvement or an ancilary involvent in the industry having had tires exrayed for recapping and seeing the results along with some fleet maintenance of trailers in the work place with tire inspections. "I have seen 8 yr old tires pass a full x ray test for capping" "one trailer at work has passed multiple inspections wearing 10.00-20 tube tires from 1997 and 1999" I did remove my mistaken impression however your profanity still remains. Anyways I have provided the links and the evidence is overwhelming that it is unwise to use tires that are over 5/6 years old. There is in fact as show by the link previously posted an Evidence Warehouse being maintained by an Orlando Florida attourney containing a number of vehicles that have crashed from the failure of new looking tires that were over 5 years old. There are in fact attourneys all over the country pushing for better regulation to stop the losses from the National problem of old tires being sold as new and used unsafe tires being presented and sold as roadworthy causing loss of property and life.
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by: sailracer - Oct 18, 2013 14:40:24 GMT -5
Post by sailracer on Oct 18, 2013 14:40:24 GMT -5
Seems to me as "ODD" behavior for an attorney to lobby for laws which would be counterproductive to his/her profession (ambulance chasing). Have I died and awoken in a new world?
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by: rockynv - Oct 18, 2013 15:14:38 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Oct 18, 2013 15:14:38 GMT -5
Seems to me as "ODD" behavior for an attorney to lobby for laws which would be counterproductive to his/her profession (ambulance chasing). Have I died and awoken in a new world? They are people, have feelings and many do want to do more than just make a lot of money. If you have dealt with one too many cases of large families having a blowout or tread separation on a supposedly new tire while driving something like a 10 or 14 passenger van and loosing most of the family then it has to touch you at some level especially when you get known for representing families that have suffered such a loss. I know that I would be cringing every time my secratary informed me that we have another one. He seems like he would be very happy to just make it stop before these tires ever got installed on a vehicle and could go the rest of his career without getting called to represent another family who has had such a loss. Maybe up North folks are more isolated from these occurances but around here it is all too common.
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by: copenhagen - Oct 18, 2013 15:37:41 GMT -5
Post by copenhagen on Oct 18, 2013 15:37:41 GMT -5
This thread is getting old! Just put a hard rubber tire on and no more blow-outs!
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by: spandi - Oct 18, 2013 17:02:30 GMT -5
Post by spandi on Oct 18, 2013 17:02:30 GMT -5
The OP for this was to find out about tire size, load capacity and speed rating. Can we at least stay on topic?
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by: Jarlaxle - Oct 18, 2013 18:12:08 GMT -5
Post by Jarlaxle on Oct 18, 2013 18:12:08 GMT -5
I am not in the tire business, I never have been. Please remove your libelous statement immediately. You kinda indicated either direct involvement or an ancilary involvent in the industry having had tires exrayed for recapping and seeing the results along with some fleet maintenance of trailers in the work place with tire inspections. "I have seen 8 yr old tires pass a full x ray test for capping" "one trailer at work has passed multiple inspections wearing 10.00-20 tube tires from 1997 and 1999" I drive a truck, the company I work for also has tractor-trailers. The capped tire I mentioned was and is on my Jeep!
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by: bandito2 - Oct 25, 2013 22:25:24 GMT -5
Post by bandito2 on Oct 25, 2013 22:25:24 GMT -5
This thread is getting old! Just put a hard rubber tire on and no more blow-outs! Or use something that is a lot stronger/tougher with a higher speed/load rating and has a softer rubber compound like a car tire if you can find one that will fit. I once owned a Helix but never could find a car tire that would fit. Not many 10 inch automotive wheels around here. But, the Chinese do have vehicles that have 10 inch automotive tires/wheels. Don't know how one could get any of those tires over here in the USA though. But on my Honda Reflex, yes, I use a car tire (on the rear only) and have done so for a long time. I was the first ever to use a car tire on a Reflex scooter and there are several others that do it now too with no ill effects. If there were car tires to fit the Helix when I had it, I might have put a car tire on the rear. And before anyone starts just blasting off and bad mouthing the idea, they should do some research on "Darkside" motorcycles and scooters first. (bringing this up in this thread certainly can't be any worse than mentioning re-treads) A Helix can't get much past 70 MPH anyway. And the load rating is indicated for just that tire; a scoot rides on 2 wheels and the load is shared by them both. (though the rear may actually carry a slightly higher percentage of the distributed load.) Good that the OP is doing the homework of checking for tires that best meet his desires. Some are better than others for some things. In my experience, Viper Strykers for example, are not too good in wet conditions. JMO, such as it is. Good luck and happy scooting to the OP when the tires being searched for are found.
Mike B. (Rochester Hills Michigan Dark Side Rider) (4 Honda Reflex scooters and a FSC600A Silverwing too)
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