Post by scooter12 on Sept 11, 2015 21:17:17 GMT -5
Well, after the oil change, gear oil change, spark plug change, new variator, new clutch, belt, new tires, new horn, master cylinder, light dimmer switch, and finding that exhaust leak, well runs great.
Post by scooter12 on Sept 10, 2015 15:02:52 GMT -5
Well, finally figured out what that engine noise was on my scooter. I looked at oil- it is OK with no big chunks of metal. I changed gear oil - again no big chunks. Took rear wheel off to inspect it - nothing wrong with it. Than noticed the exhaust pipe was loose. Created an air leak. So the noise was the engine getting louder as I went faster. Sounded like a loud tick tick tick... like the engine was going to fall apart. The exhuast pipe also cracked and broke off a big chunk where it bolts up to the rear wheel. So the exhaust could move slightly down mmaking the upper part that connects in the engine even more loose that could hear engine ticking. I placed a big washer on it for now and tightened up upper piece where exhaust gasket goes. Rode it around town and took out on 50 MPH highway. No more noise. I have one more issue with it. It would not start up the other day. A short.. it is probably in the fuse box. It was as if battery was dead, nothing came on. I checked the battery. It is good. The fuse box has given me troubles from day one. I could order a new fuse box for $15. But a wire is not getting a good connection. The fuses just vibrate from the running engine. At 8 years of owning, it is over due for new parts. I will go ahead and order $400 in new parts.
I listened to YouTube videos on scooter engine noises to find the exhaust leak. It is a little tricky to pin point a noise but mine was not making a noise at idle. It took going about 30 MPH before the noise occurred. Also the warming of the engine made it more obvious. Most people on YouTube could start their scooters and immediately hear noise. Mine was not that problem. And when I rode to Rolla MO, well that is when I lost a chunk of the exhaust bolt mounting portion. It is when the noise became loud. It is hard to tell where the noise is coming from, with a helmet on. I did hear the chunk of the exhaust fall off when riding to Rolla, but could not tell what it was. I did ride around the park with no helmet and could hear the noise coming from the exhaust pipe side.
I noticed a 200... actually 168.9 CC for sale through a scooter dealer on web. It has more power than a 150 but 19 more CC is not much more. So maybe if a stocked 150 does around 50 MPH, well the 200 would hit 55. I read up on this 200 CC scooter and the 150. The Chinese are copying what other motorcycle manufacturers do. Kymco has a 200 scooter listed 163 CC. I guess anything bigger than 150 is now a 200.
Well the scooter I like, still has hardly any body. Looks more like a motorcycle verses scooter. Has that same engine as the 150 but the engine has been bored out to be 19 CC bigger by the manufacturer. I looked up the manufacturer and looked at 150 to the 200 speed. A 150 done to the manufacturer a Max speed of 80 kmh. The 200 scooter done kmh. So about 9 MPH fast than a 150. It had a 13 inch tire back wheel. The manufacturers name was Dong Fang DF Moto.
Read where the only way to get more power, was to get more CC. That rejeting carb is only to make run cooler. That can put heavier roller weight in but that only gives one better take off performance. That can change the belt to a Gates belt but it will only last longer than a Chinese cheapy. But generally a 150 CC scooter will do 50 MPH on the flat. Now some scooters like the Zuma 50 with a two stroke engine can hit 40 MPH. Bigger tires have something to do with it and gearing. Something to do with weight, like if I weighed 300 lbs and raced a person that weighed 125 lbs, on the exact same model of scooter, well the smaller person would have an advantage on take off, be able to get to Max speed faster, be more wind resistant. Now people do bore out engines themselves. That is changing the CC that had origanally. They do this to create a faster scooters.
Well, got a new starter today, for my Bali 250. It did not start when I put it on. I recall the horn coming on and than nothing. Today the brake light came on and than nothing. I checked the fuse box and all was good. Recharged the battery, but only took about 20 minutes for the green light to come on. Put it back in the 250 and nothing. So cleaned on terminals with baking soda and water. Cleaned up cables that connected to battery. Than it ran good.
Now the starter was bad. It made a terrible grinding noise, the last time trying to start it. But it showed me that the wires need cleaning after 7 1/2 years. I could not hear the squeak in it, sitting at idle. Even reved it up and heard nothing. It am leaning to the problem with it, being either a bear or grease being added to the front axel. Can't really hear the squeak at under 30 MPH and must where a helmet at all times, which make it hard to tell where it is coming from.
But a guy has 27,000 miles on a 150T and even if kilometers, well that is about 19,000 miles. Still good for a Chinese scooter.
How tall are you? A 150 scooter is a little smaller than a 250 scooter. I would ask, that you take a pic of yourself on your scooter, to help me decide on buying a 150. Any help would be appreciated. I see the Roketa 75 150T scooter, it looks alright, but looking at a picture with no body in it, well it makes it hard to judge the size of it. I would hate to order a scooter that is to small for me.
The rims concern me also. The rims on the 150t are 13 inch. Some scoots come with 12 inch and 10 inch rims. The smaller tire size, means less speed. I knew this elderly gentleman whom rode his 150 scooter with 10 inch rims, 15 miles to Walmart. Could only do 50 MPH max speed. He had about 10 cars behind him. This was the flat ground way also. It would do the mileage and had 21,000 miles on it. Another guy I met on Scootdawg said, it may be KM. But still it was impressive because 15,000 miles is good. So rim size, I did consider for higher speed.
Now there is something you are all forgetting. I am not going to ride it on a daily basis to work. I am disabled and ride for enjoyment. I choose times, when traffic is not as heavy on highways. Highways around me, are posted 55 MPH max. The lowest speed is 40 mph . One does not have to go 70 MPH on the interstate highway. But must do atleast 40 MPH. I am not going to ride a 150 on the interstate highway, just saying the speed laws are limited to 40 MPH. State highways are mainly 55 MPH highways and a person in Missouri on a 49cc scooter, has as much rights to ride on any highway as a trucker except for interstate federal highways. Just stating the laws. Is it crazy to ride a 49cc on a 55 MPH highway and make traffic angry? Yes it is. 40 MPH is the low speed for interstate highways and state highways there is no low speed. So people ride bicycles on state highways. Not sane but cars see it time to time.
I hate to slow traffic down. Why? It causes road rage. Causes unnessisary risks. So I want to be able to do 50 to 55 MPH. The speed limit. Now riding to Walmart every other week is fun but not daily. Riding 6 miles to the next town and riding through the twisting back highways, is not going to offend other drivers. Choosing times to go is important to me to avoid traffic. So like don't leave at 8 in the morning when kids are going to school, people going to work. Leave at 10 in the morning to avoid most traffic. Use common sense. Choose to leave at 1 pm and be back by 3 pm. Not during rush hour.
But that is always my motive whether on a 150 scoot or a 250 scoot.Safety first... I live in Belle MO. a town of mostly farmers. The 15 mile away town is Owensville a town of 7000. The towns in between are 1000 people with state routes. They are 55 MPH routes but traffic is hardly seen in these areas. Routes are like OO, E, EE, 55 MPH highways are like 28, 54, 63. Interstate highways are like I 44, I 70, where speed limits hit 70 MPH. Interstates are closed off to traffic lights and go straight across the State. Highways have cross traffic.
I know India is enjoying buying a Honda PCX 150 look alike. I was looking at 150cc scooters and came across a 150 PCX look alike selling in India right now, made by Znen. China. I hope it never sales in the United States, because that is infringing on Honda rights and patent. But it would be nice to own a scooter with 16 inch rims that was China's own idea.
Do Chinese 150cc scooters do up to 60 MPH on the level ground? I own a 250cc scooter and the Chinese claim it will do 68 MPH on the level ground. There is not a big difference in 60 mph and 68 MPH.
Will a 150cc scooter be able to commute distances of 15 miles at 50 to 55 mph?
Is it better to buy a light weight 150cc scooter verses a heavy scooter? See, I thought about buying a Roketa MC 150T scooter that wieghs 264 lbs gross weight verses a Bali 150 that weighs 298 lbs dry weight. My thoughts on the subject of weight, is the more one has, the slower the scooter will go. I am 6 ft tall and 179 lbs. I am not concerned that I weigh to much.
My wife rode a 49cc scooter, 15 mile on a country highway and seemed to have no problems. It was in a less populated area. But she was only traveling 30 mph . We moved since then and though in a small town, the highways are two lane but more people use them. So need to travel between 50 and 55 MPH.
My 250 scooter is 8 years old and I am going to give it to my son. I would normally just buy another 250 scooter but looking at 150's, I looked at prices, prices if had to replace the engine, well, the 150 made more since. $1000 to replace the 250 engine. Only $290 to replace a 150 engine - that includes carburator with 5 other parts.
Roketa claims the 150T will do 59 MPH and Ice Bear claims 62 MPH. Both use the same engine.
When my son wrote over facebook, that he was going to get $8000 back in income tax, I wrote that he would be lucky to get $400 back. That he worked in MO and Ohio, thus he would have to pay into both States. That while in MO he was only working part time- 20 hrs per week at McDonalds and part time for the National Guard. That there was no way he would receive $8000 back, so thus he had best keep his word with Bank of America and pay $300 every 2 weeks as promised. My son filed his taxes the next day and foundout, he was only receive a little over $100..
I never said I believed my son. Already breaking his word with the bank, waiting on income tax to pay Bank of America, well it was foolish and stupid. Bank of America gave him a deadline- 3 months to pay back the money. He wasted the first month by waiting on a tax refund. Now only has 8 weeks. $200 x 4 payment due dates is only $800.. So he is not going to meet the deadline. Only $200 in 6 weeks has been paid back. If I were the bank, I would have already sent the police to his home. I would have checked with Western Union to see if that money was sent, like he claimed.
Now I know the bank can go after me through civil court, also. Can report it to ChexSystem, report to credit bureau, ect.. That is why I am on my son's butt, to pay it as promised. We called him on a lie the other day. But that is all he is good at. Lieing.. So my wife told him a lie. Said the police from the town he is in, called up here, to findout about him. That he best start paying the bank. He claimed the reason for telling us a lie, was because he did not want to worry us. But we have caught him in so many lies that it makes me wonder what he isn't saying to us. It makes me angry.
He is in the National Guard, and we thought of this too. Have not done it yet, but will if he stops paying. He only is there 1 weekend per month and gets about $200 per month. But all that matters to me, is he repays it, since he spent the money. $2200 is a lot of money, and why he spent it, is beyond me, especially when we told he to place the money back into the account. It went quickly too and now is harder to repay.
Think of this... he expected $8000 back in income tax return- got back a lousy $100.. He makes probably $600 every 2 weeks at McDonalds and $200 monthly from National Guard. Has other payment like rent, electric, phone, cell phones, ect.. So is in a world of hurt now. But he done it to himself.