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Post by ital on Sept 9, 2014 16:02:19 GMT -5
alleyoopUgh... i hope it is not the shaft broke inside the tranny... that sounds complicated. I will try to take it apart tonight. I will let you know. Yes i do have the same style scooter as yours with the 10inc wheels :-) Since you know these scooters very well, perhaps i can copy your set up :-)
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Post by ital on Sept 9, 2014 14:02:21 GMT -5
Hi All, new issue on my 2012 PUMA 150cc valentine. Today while I was accelerating at WOT I felt a hard tug\bog and then it stopped. I immediately just took it easy and it felt fine all the way to when I came to a complete stop. I took off fine, but after a mile the tug came back and the scooter went into "nutral". It idles fine and it revs very nice but it is not engaging the gears. I am assuming it is the belt. The scooter is not at my house now as I was a few miles away so once I get it home I will take the variator cover off and see what is going on. I am just surprise it is the belt as it has a Gates Power Link Belt on from the factory. Maybe it was old? I picked up the scooter in june with 0 miles on it and she has 2k miles on now. I put a HOCA Race variator in 400 miles ago with 12G weights. Could that have cause the issue? should I get the Gates Premium this time? What do you guys think? Here is a picture when I installed the HOCA race variator.  is it safe to assume that Gates Premium Drive Belt 743-20-30 would fit fine? Thank you Ital |
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Post by ital on Sept 8, 2014 23:51:29 GMT -5
alleyoop I have a 130 main jet on my 150 as well, however my pilot jet is stock 32. Do you think I should use a larger pilot jet and a smaller main jet. I do not wish to change my carburator. Thanks
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Post by ital on Sept 8, 2014 16:59:22 GMT -5
Here is my set-up. I have so many vacum lines connected from the carburetor all the way to the side and I did not want to loose that. Thus I went this route. I ended up putting the filter cover back on as well as you can unscrew a vent and there is a big opening allowing plenty of air in. Bought a PVC pipe at home depot, worked well.  |
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Post by ital on Sept 7, 2014 10:47:21 GMT -5
I had the same problem with mine and lighter variator weights resolved the issue for me. The issue would happen more when the scooter was warmed up. No matter how I adjusted the idle screw it would spin. With the heavy variator weights my scooter felt like being in overdrive all the time....
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Post by ital on Sept 7, 2014 9:04:09 GMT -5
geh3333maybe I just have a very slow oil leak, I always find some spots of oil by the cap that I can't seem to eliminate. Do you think I had to use such a large jet due to my pilot being too small? my pilot is 32, and most come with a 34 or 35 stock. i was surprise that I had to use a 130 jet as well, but anything smaller at wot it would pull back, less throttle and it would go faster. Symptoms of running lean. thanks
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Post by ital on Sept 5, 2014 23:40:10 GMT -5
spandi Do you drive a puma as well?
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Post by ital on Sept 5, 2014 17:22:14 GMT -5
jjoshua20213 I think there could be a problem with the Variator. I would take it apart and clean it to make sure nothing is pushing it out. I have read before that with the belt shredding over time it fills out inside the variator pushing the belt out so it is, as some have mentioned, the belt is not seated down low but starting at a higher area on the variator which would give the symptoms you are describing. Let us know how you make out. Ital
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Post by ital on Sept 5, 2014 13:12:15 GMT -5
I called Puma directly to ask some questions and they told me they were going out of business. They are now all sold out and I believe still unloading parts. I got my scooter in June 2014 and its a 2012 model.
Its sad to see them shut down, I like them.
Ital
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Post by ital on Sept 4, 2014 22:57:57 GMT -5
Yes. Do a full PDI. google it.
Change the oil using castrol gtx 10w 40
Change trans oil as well.
Check all bolts make sure they are tight, especially wheel bolts.
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Post by ital on Sept 4, 2014 16:27:56 GMT -5
Hi all, I just purchased a new 2012 Puma valentine 150cc.
She looks awesome, I love the Vespa look.. I get compliments no matter where I go.
I was able to get this at a very good price, but I had to do my own PDI and with Puma going out of business this summer it had no warranty. That said I did not have any major issues knock on wood and I am loving her, she’s been a good hobby as I been spending many long nights with her… lol
Out of the box she would do about 55MPH on flat roads; however this thing revs very very low, and hills and take off are horrible.
I put on her 1300 miles before some early symptoms got very serious and she would no longer start.
* Issue #1 - from the get go, she would not start right up. I would have to crank her a few times before she would start.
after 1300 miles she had enough and would not start at all. It was perfect timing since she was due for motor and tranny oil changes. While I was at it I also installed a uni filter, rejected the crab and adjusted the valves.
That fixed the issue and she starts at the 1st or 2nd crank
Stock 105 jet and a 32 pilot jet, after installing the uni filter I had to go up to 130 before she would run good.
This mods did not add any significant gain in power, it was disappointing but this could be due to not having installed a fre flow exhaust.
Issues #2 the engine seems to burn some oil, is this normal? about 1oz every 100 miles.
Now I have about 1900 miles and while I was driving all of the sudden I am hearing an exhaust leak.
Issue# 3
I check and i find a pipe by the valve cover just hanging there and melting a plastic canister near there. I looked online and its the PAIR system, so I just put a bolt into the pipe and plugged it for now until I can figure out how to remove the whole thing.
I also just installed a hoca race variator kit that comes with 12 Grams roller ($40), what a difference that made wow. Top speed is about the same I just get their a whole lot quicker, and I gained 8MPH on some steep hills. I now stay close to 40MPH on steep hills and I am 225lb. Also to my surprise the scooter came stock with the Gates Power link belt!! It does seem to have better quality parts compare to some other Chinese scoots.
I am thinking on adding an exhaust next but my retro scooter does not have many options available.
anyway I am sure you guys will hear more from me as I will need help to remove the PAIR system as it does not look as simple as some videos I seen. It seems my PAIR system also connects to my gas tank as well. I also can’t find anywhere where the pipe by the variator was connected to. I am guessing the pipe just flew off or something.
Looking forward in hearing back from you all.
Ital
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