Going to jail tomorrow morning  By  domindart (Read 7,048 times)

[replyingto=domindart]domindart[/replyingto]What, you looking for some sympathy or want people to feel sorry for you ?

Your own words state you have a few DUI's. I guess the good people of Atlanta Ga. won't properly punish you until you kill a kid.

Its time to grow up and act like an adult. If you need help ask for it.

Any idiot you mean. The message literary couldn't be any clearer. Do not drink and drive. Not even one. Just don't do it. Simples.

I think Winner is spot on.

Ian

I think it's the same with helmets, seat belts and mobile phones.

When they brought in the helmet law (talking UK), there were people up in arms, protesting, refusing to wear them. Now, people just accept that they MUST wear a helmet, and no one complains because they accept the reason why. Now it's only some real idiots, usually kids on stolen bikes, that caught without them.

When they brought in the seatbelt laws, people who didn't usually wear them kept getting caught. Now it's just something everyone does when they get into a car, and its only a few real idiots that get caught without them.

When they started really jumping up and down on drink drivers (in the UK they breath test you every time they pull you over now), pele would have "one or two" if they were driving, and get caught out. Now it's generally only the hard core alcoholics that get caught.

They brought in the phone laws relatively recently, so people still think they can get away with it. There's nothing worse than watching some one swerving away down the road while they try and text.

But like you say, the punishment for drink drivers, and phone users for that matter, just aren't tough enough.

Don't wear a seatbelt, or helmet? It's you that dies. Drive drunk, or on the phone? It's other people that get hurt. But here they have the same punishment. Stupid.

Ian

I have always stuck to the policy and rule that if I am drinking in my house I stay in my house and don't even attempt to drive until the next day.
If I am drinking outside my house I never drink more than 2 drinks unless I plan on staying at this location overnight.
I have always stuck to this policy and so far it has kept me out of trouble. There are many alchoholics in my family so I have learned alot from their mistakes.

I honestly don't think I could live with myself knowing that I took someone else's life while driving drunk. The guilt would destroy me. Taking other people's life during the Gulf War has effected me enough as it is.

--Jim

sorry, but no, that makes absolutely no sense.

if that were true, then why is the limit 0.08 and not 0.03? the limit is what it is, because of the average of number of accidents according to blood alcohol content. the higher you go by BAC, the greater number of accidents you have. this is literally how they determined what to make the "legal limit" the number of accidents at and above .08 is much greater than under.

but more importantly, how is being hammered at the wheel less dangerous than being at a lets say legal 0.07 buzz? I blew a 1.1 and the officer didnt believe it because i was completely sober acting, and never swerved the car or made any move that made me appear the least bit intoxicated. i had in fact, just gone thru a DUI checkpoint and turned around and went back thru to go to the store and none of those officers seemed to think i had a problem....

i have a big problem with people who are too stupid to realize how drunk they are and that they cant handle driving. like i said many cant handle it sober let alone buzzed, but i can honestly say ive only driven a handful of times when i knew i might be beyond my capability (most dangerous one was not drunk, but lack of sleep) and i regret those times,

BUT ive driven buzzed a million times and never even had so much as a close call. i use power tools, and even tractors and big machinery buzzed and have never had a problem.

so sorry if i dont buy the idea that buzzed driving IS drunk driving, because ITS NOT. and the idea that buzzed driving is somehow worse than being hammered is just... bizarre...

[replyingto=dragonsparks]dragonsparks[/replyingto]These numbers are not arrived at will-nilly! They are the results of scientific, and medical testing of reaction times, co-ordination etc. I used to feel the same way, I could do anything as good or better drunk than most people could do sober.Thats because I was always drunk. It's called tolerance. As you age, and your alcoholism progresses, your tolerance fluctuates.I once drank an entire 5th of Old Grandad at a bar in Newport, got up, said goodbye and drove home withno incident! The bar owner, and many people could'nt beleive i was even concious! Made a ledgend of me. Fact of the matter is i was drunk as usual. Buzzed driving IS drunk driving legally and medically! When the your foggy way of thinking clears up,(after you stop drinking for a long time) you will realize this.

I think you're not defining "buzzed" the same as me, or the current ad campaign against buzzed driving.

You're going strictly by BAC, not reaction to the drink.

Maybe you can handle three scotches and you're just fine, no change in reaction or perception or anything. Maybe I can drink one Coors and not realize I'm not noticing stuff and my reactions are slowed. You would have a lot higher BAC, but I would be the one that's buzzed.

So buzzed driving would be as bad as drunk driving, 'cause you're not as alert as you should be.

And those "million times" you say you were buzzed, I'd argue you weren't. Sure, you had alcohol in you, but it sounds like your body can handle a few drinks and not be very affected--not buzzed.

>'Kat