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Post by UniqueSP on May 11, 2018 21:15:04 GMT -5
I only run NON ETHANOL in all my scooters and even lawn mower.  |
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Post by w650 on Jul 27, 2018 11:57:00 GMT -5
I wrote this elsewhere but yesterday I started a bike for the first time in two years with two year old, maybe older, ethanol in the tank. It started, ran fine and idles evenly. I hear the stories but I haven't had the problem. I'm still curious how many people just bought gas stirred up by recent delivery.
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Post by floridagull on Jul 27, 2018 14:40:21 GMT -5
OK - from the "I might be crazy" department...
I ran ONE tank of premium, ninety-three octane e-blend (when I needed fuel, and no ethanol-free available) - and I swear the engine sounded different! Not worse, not better - but different in tone!
Am I insane? Are they "coming to take me away"?
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Post by w650 on Jul 27, 2018 18:23:52 GMT -5
No, you're not crazy. Ethanol burns cooler and could very well lead to a different tone. I have actually found my engines feel smoother or lumpier with different oils in them.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jul 27, 2018 22:47:01 GMT -5
...I hear the stories but I haven't had the problem. I'm still curious how many people just bought gas stirred up by recent delivery. My old mech warned Mom & me about that. "If you see the tanker, don't fill up." Of course, you don't know if the tanker just pulled out a couple minutes earlier. Say--how long does the crud stay all stirred up? >'Kat |
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Post by w650 on Jul 29, 2018 17:41:55 GMT -5
It all depends on how much sludge was in the tank to start with. It's why I wonder why so many people have ethanol ills when some don't.
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Post by cyborg55 on Jul 30, 2018 8:26:29 GMT -5
Scrap is all we can get here in SoCal unless you order a drum of race gas (super expensive),,I occationally will let a bike sit for weeks and they lite right up,,,but they are not left outside in the weather and are covered,,,the weather is very mild here so I've never had an issue
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Post by ricardoguitars on Jul 31, 2018 10:27:06 GMT -5
...I hear the stories but I haven't had the problem. I'm still curious how many people just bought gas stirred up by recent delivery. My old mech warned Mom & me about that. "If you see the tanker, don't fill up." Of course, you don't know if the tanker just pulled out a couple minutes earlier. Say--how long does the crud stay all stirred up? >'Kat It depends on the age of the gas station, old gas station underground tanks where made of concrete, nowadays they are made of synthetic materials, sludge is no longer a problem. |
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Post by pistonguy on Aug 1, 2018 17:44:56 GMT -5
Ya wanna get a real good handle for issues with this contact my Homeboy here. Meet Bill, his daughter Julie and son Dan. Dan does all the Saw and rest of two cycle repairs, normal back log this time of year is two months.. This is in the Snow belt were all the seasons are very short, all the power equipment is used for a short period of time and stored for longs periods with the fuel, and for Joe home owner mixing up 2 gallons of premix for the saw, weedwacker and backpack blower will last several years. The last time we had a direct conversation on how good business with the Ethanol Bill indicated up wards of 300 complete carbs and as many carb kits. now last fall they have almost completely moved away from carb kits as if it don't fix it they have eat to the parts and labor and install a new carb, so now there selling over 600 complete carbs per year. Bill and I also have a mutual friend who is a competitor of his with Two stores and does abbots the same amount of Carb work all Ethanol related.  |
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Post by pistonguy on Aug 1, 2018 17:53:16 GMT -5
Now we have four of these Alky Briggs based gimmicky JR Dragsters in house for the kids to learn on. After you learn all the cars are for sale and I think this one goes for over $15,000 The maybe come out once or twice a month or so and we just fuel em and run em. Now if it ws mine and I raced this I would have fresh Alky in her.  |
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Post by mjsfoto1956 on Aug 3, 2018 14:51:57 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Aug 3, 2018 18:27:48 GMT -5
I've heard the stories too and I don't doubt the honesty of the tellers. This past week my Eagle Milano 150 (made by Bashan) just hit the ten years old mark. I finished putting it together August 1st, 2008. It not only still has the original carburetor but also the original fuel and vacuum lines. If ethanol was so toxic the scooter should be a ball of muck by now but it still runs. I'm at 9,700 miles and it purrs like a kitten. I don't get how some don't notice the difference and some are beat up by grain gasoline.
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Post by chewbaca on Aug 3, 2018 19:08:20 GMT -5
its not that its necessarily bad for your scooter as much as its manufacture is a net energy loss compared to normal gasoline. It give less miles and power for more money and ecological damage.
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Post by mjsfoto1956 on Aug 4, 2018 7:35:04 GMT -5
its not that its necessarily bad for your scooter as much as its manufacture is a net energy loss compared to normal gasoline. It give less miles and power for more money and ecological damage. And it is a form of corporate welfare... something you would think that would not sit right with most conservatives. But it is what it is. Probably not going away anytime soon. |
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Post by floridagull on Aug 12, 2018 9:42:18 GMT -5
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), I found this today - and thought it was good...