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Post by mrsunsett on Nov 10, 2017 11:39:57 GMT -5
So.... do you guys use it??
Ive heard mixed reviews... mostly good reviews or not much difference.... i see alot of people with carburetor bikes mostly saying the positive review (mostly chinese 150s)
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Post by mrsunsett on Nov 10, 2017 11:40:25 GMT -5
Just wondering before i blindly test it on my fuel injected bike.
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 10, 2017 14:56:30 GMT -5
nothing negative about it, the ethanol is crap, it's a solvent, and destroys fuel lines, carburetor parts and pretty much anything else it comes in contact with, it's also hygroscopic it absorbs water, the water causes phase separation, which means you end up with a layer of low octane gas, a layer of water, and a layer of concentrated ethanol, you can't mix it back
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Post by pistonguy on Nov 10, 2017 16:14:13 GMT -5
Thats all I use in all of my Power equipment, Scooter and late model CBR1kRR.
I won't let anything sit any amount of time with Ethanol fuel in it.
Colder weather is here so both the Scoot and Bike are topped off to the brim.
Just filled up my P-71 Interceptor with 89 octane, cost here in NC is $3.18 per gal.
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Post by SylvreKat on Nov 11, 2017 7:48:53 GMT -5
I'm lucky that I have a station right up the street with crap-free hi-oct gas. Of course, who knows what's filling that hose though? I always use my blue fuel stuff when I fill up, even with the crapless gas.
I asked my last mech (big-time motorcycle fixer/customiser) what's the difference between using clean hi-oct, clean low-oct with octane boost, or crapanol with fuel stuff. He said there's not much diff, personally he just filled with crapanol plus fueler since there's no guarantee to always find clean gas.
And my first mech from Piaggio used the fuel stuff when he fixed it after my roundabout incident, knowing it was being stored. He didn't recommend draining and keeping it dry. He *did* recommend running it for a while, every few weeks.
So my personal, non-mech opinion based on mechs' comments to me, is go e-free if it's convenient.
>'Kat
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Post by tvnacman on Nov 11, 2017 8:50:13 GMT -5
I was using e free fuel for a while. Till the guy at work retired. He lived a few miles from the e free station. I can't do 160 miles round trip. So i'm back to e gas. If i had choice I would do the e free.
John
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Post by hillbillybob on Nov 11, 2017 9:09:16 GMT -5
I have used it exclusively, in my trouble free Chinese scooter, for 6 riding seasons. Each season is separated by a 5 month hibernation.
Also run ethanol-free, 91 octane, in my other 3 bikes, 2 of which are fuel injected, my Yamaha ATV, and my BMW X1 SUV.
Closest station is 13 miles away, next closest is 23 miles in the opposite direction.....both have a dedicated hose/pump for ethanol-free. There are other stations in my area that offer real gas, but it comes through the same hose as the other grades do......so I shy away from these places.
It is more expensive, but not prohibitively so....especially for a scooter. About $.60 a gallon more here...... so far this season the scoot has covered 1814 miles, burned 22.8 gallons of fuel, so 22.8 times the $.60 = $13.68 extra fuel expense for the whole season.
Is it worth it? That's a personal choice...
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 11, 2017 10:10:54 GMT -5
if you want to hear about how bad the ethanol is,ask about any one who runs a lawn care business, and ask them how much damage it does, I know before I went to non ethanol for my lawn mower, I was going through about three carb diaphragms a season , turned to goo
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 11, 2017 10:12:19 GMT -5
I was using e free fuel for a while. Till the guy at work retired. He lived a few miles from the e free station. I can't do 160 miles round trip. So i'm back to e gas. If i had choice I would do the e free. John puregas.org |
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 11, 2017 10:14:30 GMT -5
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Post by chewbaca on Nov 11, 2017 11:36:43 GMT -5
removing ethanol from gas is not to difficult to do i recommend a gallon glass pickle jar and an old Windex spray bottle. fill the jar about 3/4 full of gas and start spritszing with water. at first the ethanol will absorb the water but if you add more than it can handle it all falls out of solution. you end up with pure low octane gas on top and ethanol and water on the bottom add a good octane booster and you are all done www.tractorbynet.com/forums/oil-fuel-lubricants/258454-removing-ethanol-gasoline.htmli just run pump gas myself but if ethanol if giving you greaf this will fix it |
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 11, 2017 12:04:10 GMT -5
you cannot remove ethanol from gas it's not that simple, you are trying to force it into phase separation , even if you could get the gas out, now you have low octane useless gas, because the ethanol is used to raise the octane level.
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 11, 2017 12:19:07 GMT -5
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Post by chewbaca on Nov 11, 2017 12:55:00 GMT -5
i am so tired of you
that video says exactly the same thing i just did
you did not even bother to read my post before jumping to discredit me i am going to report this nonsense my patients is done.
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 11, 2017 13:59:50 GMT -5
I'm not going to sit here and argue with you, but you are giving bad advice which is going to damage someones bike if they follow it, the ethanol cannot be removed from the gas, it replaces the MTBE as the octane booster, and without it, you don't even have gas fit for a cheap lawnmower. the only option is to find a station selling pure gas, and stick with them, there are more of them appearing as people are tired of the damage caused by corn gas. You can find ethanol free gas at most marinas, and a lot of smaller stations still carry it, I posted a link above to pure-gas.org who has maps and ratings to many of these stations and is edited by consumers. Find a good station selling it, get some 5 or ten gallon cans and some stabil, pure gas will keep for a long time with a stabilizer,
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