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Post by Jarlaxle on Nov 19, 2017 20:44:58 GMT -5
Factually incorrect. By 1992, everything was designed to run E10. (Most cars were by the mid-80's.) If yours did not, something else was wrong. I have put hundreds of thousands of miles on cars older than 1992 on E10 without a problem. Actually, everything I found online back then said cars pre-1995ish (?) weren't designed for more than just a small percentage of ethanol if any. I'm not totally sure of that year as I researched this around 2005 when there was all the buzz about some energy bill being passed to pretty much make e10 as the standard. And since I switched to clean gas, I didn't make a point of saving that knowledge into my brain. But hey, maybe my math is wacky. I'm a blonde, it's so hard to divide miles by gallons put in, even with a calculator. So yeah, I'm sure I'm wrong when I look in my Taurie's old mileage book (yes, I kept it--I figured the kid could start his own. I also kept the ciggy lighter too. And the cargo net but that wasn't on purpose) and see his mpg change pre-clean vs after several fill-ups post. And I even switched from good stations (Shell or BP) to QT (buys from whoever is cheapest at the time, so who knows it might've even been Conoco/Phillips) Maybe it was because I DIDN'T drive lots. When I sold him in 2015 () he had about 198k miles on him. He started in '97 with near-80k. You can do the math and see how little I drive. Or maybe it's since I'm not mechanical. I obviously would have no clue if something was wrong with my car, right? That's why once when I took him in to my mech and his guy didn't find anything wrong, Dave didn't tell him "If Kathy says something's wrong with her car, then something's wrong with her car. She knows her car. Go check it again." (oh, wait, that's EXACTLY what he told him) And the guy ran some additional test that usually is a waste without obvious symptoms, and found some little minor thing that had gone wrong, that so barely affected how Taurie handled that the guy didn't feel anything wrong when he test-drove. And yet I did feel it. So.Bite.Me. For assuming that just because I'm not mechanical I wouldn't know my car's running. For assuming I didn't research how ethanol would affect my beloved Taurie. For assuming I just pulled this out of my ttub. Wow, a little defensive, there. You clearly have your mind made up, so I will not even bother. Except to note that I have been burning ethanol-blend (5-10%) gas for 20 years, in vehicles older than your Taurus (oldest I'm certain of is my 1979 Cadillac), with a grand total of zero problems. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I burned E10 in a 1972 Ford F-800...so that would be the oldest. And I will note that 118,000 miles in 18 years really isn't that much driving. |
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Post by SylvreKat on Nov 19, 2017 23:32:19 GMT -5
Not defensive, Jarlaxle, just really irritated that my research and own personal findings were pretty much totally blown off like I'm just window dressing here. Along with you pretty much saying that I wouldn't know something was wrong with my car, or that my mech wouldn't tell me.
And I never said my car COULDN'T run e10. I just said he wasn't designed for it. And posted his improved gas mileage as proof that he preferred clean gas.
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Post by cyborg55 on Nov 20, 2017 0:48:31 GMT -5
I’m gonna get the hose
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Post by Jarlaxle on Nov 20, 2017 8:20:23 GMT -5
Not defensive, Jarlaxle, just really irritated that my research and own personal findings were pretty much totally blown off like I'm just window dressing here. Along with you pretty much saying that I wouldn't know something was wrong with my car, or that my mech wouldn't tell me. And I never said my car COULDN'T run e10. I just said he wasn't designed for it. And posted his improved gas mileage as proof that he preferred clean gas. It could easily be running fine...but have something wrong. (Wild guess: a failing O2 sensor.) |
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Post by SylvreKat on Nov 20, 2017 9:15:20 GMT -5
It could easily be running fine...but have something wrong. (Wild guess: a failing O2 sensor.) So you're saying that something like a failing O2 sensor might actually have been responsible for the improved mpg. Not the switch to clean gas, which I guess was just coincidentally timed. And my mech never discovered this in the following years of oil changes and tune-ups etc. And you're still missing my point. So I'll spell it out for you. You shouldn't just dismiss someone's comment summarily. Instead, be polite--"that's not what I've read/experienced/whatever, how did you come up with that?" 'Cause you know, maybe the other poster has different info than you. It may or may not be equally valid, but they're still posting from an educated position. It's nicer to assume someone isn't just posting flake than to assume they are. |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Nov 21, 2017 23:20:12 GMT -5
No, a failing O2 sensor could have been responsible for the car not running properly on E10.
And on that note, I'm gone. Have a nice life.
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Post by cyborg55 on Nov 22, 2017 0:16:37 GMT -5
Boy it’s not even winter yet
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Post by tvnacman on Nov 22, 2017 5:37:18 GMT -5
Except to note that I have been burning ethanol-blend (5-10%) gas for 20 years, in vehicles older than your Taurus (oldest I'm certain of is my 1979 Cadillac), with a grand total of zero problems.
Braging about a GM product in the experemental years. Is that the HT4100 or was it changed for the olds 307?
John
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Post by Jarlaxle on Nov 22, 2017 7:41:22 GMT -5
Cad 425, originally...last of the 7 litre cars.
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Post by cyborg55 on Nov 22, 2017 9:08:14 GMT -5
Cad 425, originally...last of the 7 litre cars. Ouch,,,let me guess 8-9 mpg around town and maybe 11 hyway |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Nov 22, 2017 16:51:59 GMT -5
Cad 425, originally...last of the 7 litre cars. Ouch,,,let me guess 8-9 mpg around town and maybe 11 hyway 10/15 with the 425, after a good supertune. Now, about 17 highway...And 12.45 in the quarter mile. |
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Post by lostforawhile on Nov 22, 2017 22:51:00 GMT -5
all this talk about Egas,and no talk of burrito gas, of course that type of gas has an effect on everyone around it  |
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Post by Jarlaxle on Nov 23, 2017 11:28:20 GMT -5
all this talk about Egas,and no talk of burrito gas, of course that type of gas has an effect on everyone around it Especially if wearing a one-piece rain suit. |
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Post by cyborg55 on Nov 23, 2017 11:47:39 GMT -5
😂. Auto Dutch oven,,,,
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Post by floridagull on Mar 14, 2018 12:10:15 GMT -5
Should my 2016 Kymco Super 8 150 be happy with 10% ethanol, or not?  We have what is called "Rec Ninety" fuel 'round here - ninety octane, no ethanol. Would that be better than ninety-three octane e-blend?  My scooter mechanic - the "Scooter Genie" - says to run the ninety-three octane blended stuff - and he deals mainly with the lower-end Chinese stuff - think new Baccios (like TaoTaos) and repair of old Chinese scooters. I ran one tank of the "Rec Ninety" stuff recently because, quite frankly, I needed gas and serendipitously pulled into the Valero in Port Salerno that had it. I said to my wife "hey, I'm gonna try this stuff - I read about it on the scooter board..." I guess I should have tried a few tanks...  |
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