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Filing a set of 16X13 because 2T use 15X12. So I filed the 16X13 to 12mm wide and they were still 16mm tall vice 12mm tall. Make sense now? It makes the newly made 2T sliders 1mm taller than stock..but end of travel due to their shape they come out a bit over 2mm taller. Ok..now for the 4t 18X14 sliders filed down to 13mm wide to fit a 4 T which has 13mm wide sliders..they are still 18mm tall vice 16mm tall like stock gy6 50 rollers. Make sense now?. That is why ya can't buy Dr pulley or any slider..cause they don't come in 16X12 for a 2T and 18X13 for a 4T. Ya getting it ? ;D Since the sliders you just 'made' are taller..you now get more lift. They fit flush still under the CVT pressure plate..but as they start to move you get 1mm more lift on the 16X12 2T weights..and 2mm more on the 18X13 4T weights. Once you reach the end of the CVT ramp where it gets steep suddenly....the 1mm extra on the 2T becomes more than 1mm due to their elliptical shape so you get the belt higher on the CVT for a better high speed ratio. Same on the 4t with sliders sized down to 18X13 vice 18X14. They are now 18mm high vs 16mm high. At idle and low speed they still ride low enough under the CVT pressure plate as to no take away your bottom end. Again..as they progress up the ramps the lift becomes higher than the stock 16mm high one...then at end of travel they have closed you CVT more so your belt ride higher..giving you better top end. My 2T and my gf 4T we both gained 8-10 mph.. no joking..no . Tell ya what bro..you have been a friend with me on here a long time. Tell me what weight you run in your 4t 50mm an 52mm scoots. I will send you a set of modded weights..FREE..you try them..they report back to us here. You are going to be blown away by the difference. Check with alleyoop..he and were both having the same brain storm at the same time about this. His 150 uses 18X14..he found some weights from some oddball scooter that are already made so to speak...as they are 20X14..so he does not have to file anything down. Look at this as well...our 2T use 15X12's..when we buy a Hoca variator they use a 16X13..1mm taller than the 15X12 stock 2T ones. What do people report with the Hoca CVT? Great take off and much higher top end...and whys is that? Well besides a different ramp angle they also use a taller weight..which gives more lift...which gives more top end. I notice nobody has commented on this "Interesting experiment part 2" cause it is thinking outside the box maybe? All too often we get caught up in "We have always done it like this" or.."Well..that's just the way things are" Always done like this and just the way things are..is because we are stuck not trying to think outside the box. Which is way Japan,Germany,Italy and many other countries are ahead of us technology wise. As we say.. Aytonikii bebalynoc deya so jutokimi esotiiniha... <-- Without risk you shall have no progress... Odd that nobody has tried this after reading the post...but then it is 'different'..outside the box thinking..and not bought off the shelf or purchased from a vendor or Ebay...so it can't work..lol.. ;D Sad but true. Ok ...somebody out there..that runs a 50-100 2t or 4T stock or BBK with sliders. Tell me what weight you run and I will send a new 'modded' set for free. Try them and tell us what ya think.

Interesting experiment part 2. Interesting experiment part 1 very few folks read..commented on or tried. Which surprised me as it is good for a free 8-10 mph even on the stock scoots we tried it with. A short rehash of what I did. Hoca and some performance variators use 16X13 rollers in their 2T variator...vice the standard 15X12. The Hoca variator does give you a speed boost..but was it due to the variator..or taller weight? So I decided to find out. I took the KOSO 15X12 5 gram sliders out of my 2T..had an old pair of gy6 KOSO 16X13 sliders in my old parts box. I ran them down a Mill File about 25 strokes and made them 12mm wide vice 13. Digital scale showed the same weight as all that came off was they nylon or plastic part itself. We only think of it as 1 tiny mm..but move them back in the variator channels along with a stock 15X12..at the the end of travel the ramp angles make it more than 1mm lift!! Put them in and off I went with a jet like takeoff!. It wound up smooth and 8-10 mph faster depending on the wind.
This leads to part 2. My gf scoot is a Sunny 4T and uses 16X13 Ninja brand slider weights. So I got a set of 18X14 sliders www.martinracingdealer.com/SPD/d-slider-18x14-8gr--8000212A-1263075728.jsp Then I used the Mill File and filed them down to 16mm wide to fit the stock variator. The Dr Pulley brand lost 2 grams from filing as the material is heavy and taking off 2mm the filing went into the metal center ring. Which was good! Cause now they are 6 gram and she was running 6 gram. ;D Installed them and she too got an 8-10 mph boost. Soo instead of spending 100+ bux for 'super duper 75% power increase' bogus variator from a company feeding you pig by the shovels full with their sales pitches and catch phrases. Try this first. You WILL NOT be disappointed....and if you have an old pair of sliders lying around..it's free! Or 12 bux on Ebay for a set. "DISCLAMER" I do not know if this works for rollers..never tried it. So if you have an old set...please try it and let folks here know.
Glenn

[replyingto=alleyoop]alleyoop[/replyingto]Good info..! But funny...cause one day out of curiosity I opened one to see what was in it..cause I imagined it would be 4 cells to make 12 volts...that were a lot more huge in size than the 'D' cell batteries.. Nope I was wrong.

Then why do % of folks lead acid batteries here only last one season? $115.00 for a Lithium? Here you do the math www.ebay.com/itm/7A-BS-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-Scooter-Powersports-Battery-/171007258460?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item 27d0d3af5c&vxp=mtr
They plan to sell them from their shop for that price as well. I know another you gotta negate every post I make. Jealous cause I found these and not you. But as always EVERY post I make you negate. Shouldn't you be 'speculating ' more of your off the wall schemes likr the ones you post... i.e. gonna make your 50 a 30cc to get better gas mileage...or decrease a 50cc jet size from the stock 74 to a 64 for better mileage. Or anyone of your way out there and outlandish dreams and speculations that you post as 'FACTUAL' which really puts our new scoot owners and wrench turners at risk of ruining their scooter. pfft..keep negating everything I post...I need a good laugh.. btw..notice how many times folks have said "Thanks carasdad that worked" or helped them or whatever. Yet we have not seen one for your...ahem...I guess you would call them contributions. But then skuttadog..alleyoop..hank...fugaziz...and SO MANY others get a thanks for their help and contributions and help. You get none..so you feel left out. Many of us do find it very entertaining that you just HAVE to be the expert on everything...Keep it going.. I always enjoy a good laugh...and it sure is cheaper than paying for Cable TV to watch Comedy Central...

No..but everytime I log in..I have to do it twice...first time it shows invalid username or password. Type same thing the second time and it logs me on..

[replyingto=millsc]millsc[/replyingto]Wow...then ya do need more CCA...since 105 CCA won't do it...this will at 160 CCA.... it cranked a 500cc Kawasaki UTV. www.ebay.com/itm/7A-BS-Lithium-Ion-Li-ion-Scooter-Powersports-Battery-/171007258460?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item27d0d3af5c&vxp=mtr
Beware of the 'high torque' starters they sell. Many are just stock. High Torque ones have a different gauge wire and different number of windings on the armature. Some electronics person will hopefully and explain it to us...as I can't remember if it was thinner wire and more windings...thicker wire less..or more windings. Regardless a girl had a Longbo 50 that her brother milled the head for more compression. I had an old armature and compared it to her 'High Torque' one. They were identical. If you remove the end bell to check and see if they sent you a stock one...BE CAREFUL..only pull it back about 1/4" to see inside. Also..VERY IMPORTANT..put a mark on the end bell and other piece..that way if it happens to come apart you can get it back together properly..which is a huge PITA!. Reason for the scribe mark is..it is a DC motor...so if you get the end bell back on 180 degrees off...the motor will run backwards.

Wow 1st one sure is struggling...barely turning it. Is that with a 50mm head?... You need a few more CCA in your battery..