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Post by scootscoot86 on Mar 13, 2016 7:54:59 GMT -5
On my scooter's which 1 is a 50cc, the other I had before wrecking it was a 150cc and after the 1st oil change i always used synthetic oil from then on, I never had any issues and the bike ran great!! I had a performance spark plug, a CDI NO REV LIMIT, changed normal battery that came with it from place i bought it online, which was pro ride outlet. As I said it ran great! for the year I had it til i wrecked and destroyed it! I have had my 50cc for over 3years Its a TAOTAO also still runs great!
I just bought a NEW 150CC typhon (Thats the name of it on the site) or MCR-137-150
So im still breaking that in. Only thing I have done is changed the CDI on it to a CDI NO REV LIMIT as well..
I have read mixed reviews about using synthetic oil, What's every one's thoughts here?
Personally it has been No issue for me and all 3 bikes r Chinese the 2 150cc have the clone GY6 in them.
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Post by JR on Mar 13, 2016 8:48:19 GMT -5
IMO scootscoot86 it's a waste of money, got 5 scooters, a 1993 Chevy Silverado extended cab that with 179k on it and running nothing but good quality dino Castrol oil still runs like a champ. Changing your scooters oil like most do (not me) every 2000 miles means that instead of throwing away $8 to $10 a quart oil using synthetic you only throw away $2 to $3 a quart oil using dino oil. In fact when I remove the not really that bad dino oil from my scooters I bottle it and save it for my old 1988 Craftsman mower which does use a little oil. There are those who argue that you don't have to change synthetic as often thus it merits the extra cost but I run dino oil just as long, have 5 scooters that run like they always have with one now having 15k on it, the proof is in the pudding and that's the bottom line. I have a friend in Missouri that put over 25k on his 250B using cheap Dollar Store dino oil before he sold it and it still ran fine. Synthetic oil is over rated and not needed for a scooter that basically is a lawn mower engine. I'm betting that your scooters would have done just as well on good dino oil. JR |
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Post by wheelbender6 on Mar 13, 2016 10:23:54 GMT -5
If you change your oil at the recommended intervals, dinosaur oil is fine, IMHO. Use synthetic if you want to stretch out the oil change intervals.I would definitely use synthetic oil in a turbocharged or supercharged auto engine.
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Post by hillbillybob on Mar 13, 2016 17:12:24 GMT -5
Conventional will do the job......at least it has for me over the last 4 + million miles. If it's good enough for my BMW's, and was good enough for the $20,000 Caterpillar engines I have owned, I guess it will work in a $300 Chinese scooter engine.
But.....since it's your scooter, I'd suggest that you use what makes you feel good, instead of what others say is best.
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 13, 2016 19:22:35 GMT -5
On one hand, it's less than a quart per change, so costs aren't as much of a factor as it is changing a car or truck's oil.
On the other hand, changing more frequently with dollar store oil has kept my scooters running fine. I have two 50cc scooters with 5000+ miles, and a 150cc that just hit 6000 miles. All have been running dollar store oil, with changes every 500 miles in cool months, and 300 miles during hot Vegas summers.
I personally believe frequency beats fanciness, but I say go with what makes you feel comfortable.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 14, 2016 0:50:50 GMT -5
Depends on the bike. A GY6 50 or 150 with just an oil screen that needs dino oil every 500/600 miles since it has no real filter while a Piaggio 250 or 500 designed from the ground up to run 6,500 miles between oil and filter changes and run 50,000 to 100,000 miles before needing a rebuild on 4T full synthetic motorcycle oil needs 4T full synthetic motorcycle oil.
My Aprilia has almost 30,000 miles on it and does not burn any oil. If you use the correct oil you just check it every 3,250 miles and change it along with the automotive style oil filter every 6,500 by the book. If it requires any oil in-between changes then I will be looking for a drip and a leak.
Lets face it a typical GY6 50/150 with a carb is a dirty running engine that tends to drop a lot of carbon in the crank case having no paper filter to capture that dirt. Synthetic oil will just keep that dirt suspended and flowing through the system so you're best off using dino oil and changing it more often as that is the only way to get that dirt out of the crankcase.
Now if Chinese scooter manufacturers adopt the new Briggs and Stratton EXI Engine Tech that could change everything as they are designed to not require oil changes, just top them off if the oil gets low:
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Post by jjjoseph on Mar 26, 2016 4:00:03 GMT -5
Synthetic isn't needed (only for LearJets) but what IS needed is regular oil changes. My scoot takes .7 litres, and I change oil every 2000km. Don't let your oil get dirty - therein lies too many problems.
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 26, 2016 6:34:16 GMT -5
... Now if Chinese scooter manufacturers adopt the new Briggs and Stratton EXI Engine Tech that could change everything as they are designed to not require oil changes, just top them off if the oil gets low: You're supposed to change the oil in your push-mower not just top off? Oops..... >'Kat |
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Post by RapidJim on Mar 26, 2016 8:31:54 GMT -5
All I use in the shop is good ole Dino Oil. As already been send frequent oil changes is the best maintenance you can do
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Post by rockynv on Mar 26, 2016 10:07:11 GMT -5
... Now if Chinese scooter manufacturers adopt the new Briggs and Stratton EXI Engine Tech that could change everything as they are designed to not require oil changes, just top them off if the oil gets low: You're supposed to change the oil in your push-mower not just top off? Oops..... >'Kat The new Briggs EXI Engines are specifically designed to never need an oil change. Not sure how they pull that one off. Hope its not because they wear out before the first oil change would be needed. |
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Post by rockynv on Mar 26, 2016 10:13:12 GMT -5
All I use in the shop is good ole Dino Oil. As already been send frequent oil changes is the best maintenance you can do Depends on the make and design of the Engine. There is no blanket answer. If you have a bike with an engine with full oil filtration made by the motorsport division of the Piaggio Aircraft Company to micro fine tolerances then you go by the book and use Synthetic and follow the oil change schedule. You will get 50,000 to 75,000+ miles from the newer Piaggio engines if you go by the book. On a filter screen engine made to looser tolerances use Dino and change it per the book which on some is every 500 to 1,000 miles or monthly. |
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Post by tortoise on Mar 26, 2016 14:24:35 GMT -5
Still prefer Delo 15W-40 engine oil in a GY6.
In the context of a supplemental top end oil . . have been experimenting with adding 1 tablespoon (½ ounce) of Walmart Super Tech Universal Full Synthetic 2-Cycle oil per gallon of gas . . around 1:256 ratio. For comparison . . that is the approximate amount of oil in 1 ounce of SeaFoam.
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Post by spandi on Mar 27, 2016 9:37:29 GMT -5
I use Texas Tea synthetic after initial Dino oil breakin, no complaints.
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Post by powerzombie on Apr 2, 2016 7:25:49 GMT -5
Quaker State Defy has better protection than Mobil One Synthetic.
So....use a good quality oil that makes you feel warm and fuzzy, and change it every 2k or so.
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Post by jtron on Apr 5, 2016 17:22:26 GMT -5
I just use rotella 15w-40. I've heard it's better with high heat since it's made for diesels which sounds reasonable, no idea if it's true or not lol, but I'd like to think so. It's cheap at least and seems to do the job.
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