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Post by rockynv on Mar 20, 2014 3:57:03 GMT -5
I hate realizing the screaming is coming from me! Better to avoid that. My friend is still screaming almost 2 years later. He still can't walk normally and the recovery from the repetative surgeries along with the PT has been quite painfull. He is an Ex-Marine who always thought himself pretty tough and finds this foot/ankle injury the worst thing he has ever dealt with. It is the only thing really preventing him from resuming a normal life after the accident.
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Post by metrodee on Mar 20, 2014 6:58:23 GMT -5
TMS Full-faced helmet
Rev-IT! armored/insulated gloves
Brama steel-toe boots (with Dr. Scholls inserts), but I wear those everywhere except home.
Some "homemade" neck warmers I made out of some very old sweat pants
I usually wear one of my thicker jackets when it's cold. When the weather's warm, I keep one in case of rain.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Mar 20, 2014 12:26:24 GMT -5
I'll get hammered for my answer but here it is. Nothing. No gloves, helmet, eye wear or anything like others use. Most of the time I'm just in a pair of shorts tennis shoes and a t shirt. Yes I know if I go down it's going to be bad.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Mar 20, 2014 12:28:27 GMT -5
Let me rephrase that. When I go down it's going to be bad.
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Post by spandi on Mar 20, 2014 12:33:15 GMT -5
Let me rephrase that. When I go down it's going to be bad. Trust me, it's WHEN.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Mar 20, 2014 14:31:34 GMT -5
My son gets mad at me when he visits because I make him wear jeans, helmet and glasses. I tell him "son, don't be dumb like your dad". He realized what I was talking about after he saw a spring breaker go down pretty hard. After seeing some of the nuts on scooters and cars I don't ride down to the end of the beach much anymore. I like my little part of the beach where traffic stays the same all year (slow and not much of it). I find myself staying in the neighborhoods a lot more then I use to. Safer that way.
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 15:02:40 GMT -5
It is bad on several people. Your family 1st, your friends, then your boss. Also consider the people that have to put you back together, if you live. It takes a toll on ER personnel. They are not robots. They hate hurting people for a living. I did it for years.....
I scrubbed a lot of gravel out of what used to be skin in an ER. Ever see anyone coming at you with one of those blue sponges with bristles on the other side? You will not forget it.
I have a butt burn from the '80s that still pushes pieces of road tar to the surface 30+ year later. Good gear is not uncomfortable, or expensive. Spare yourself, and your family the problems of dealing with bad decisions.
The guys here talked me into ankle/foot protection. Let us talk you into dressing safely before you scoot.
Skin is our largest organ, we need it to keep the coodies out. Keep yours intact if at all possible.
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Post by Paladin on Mar 20, 2014 15:04:03 GMT -5
I use a lot of gear I already had for use with larger bikes.
What do you use, and what type: Helmet - of course, but what type? Eye? Jacket? Gloves? Boots, or shoes? Anything else?
You should ignore others, Ride Your Own Ride.
It is NOT "helmet of course" -- I wear the lightest DOT helmet I can find, and only because of the law.
Eye protection is only needed at 30+ mph, and I am good up to 45 mph if close one eye and angle my schnozzle to block the wind for the other. Jacket and gloves is only needed cool weather. For 41 years I wear black denim trousers and t-shirts at work, I am retired and wear lightweight golf trousers and Hawaiian shirts. At work and on my motorcycle I wore cowboy boots on the pegs, but retired and on the Scooter I wear Florsheim Penny Loafers.
However, I started riding on pedal bikes in 1949 and I have never needed to use "protection." I do not suggest that others ride as I ride. I do not like others telling me I should ride like they ride. (Especially when they want me to crash like they do!)
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Post by rockinez on Mar 20, 2014 15:18:30 GMT -5
Most riders get the "big hurt" in the first or second year. After that they become more careful, or just give it up.
1949 from tricycles to motorcycles/scooters with no accidents is either very lucky, or an act of God. Everyone goes down. Bottom line - it happens. I have skittered my butt across the freeway in L.A. more than once. It always hurt... and cost big time.
I have been on a motorcycle since 1968, and I have crashed, or been hit in 3 big incidents, and too many small incidents to mention.
I have to cry... WEAR YOUR GEAR! Don't listen to this guy. You are not always lucky, and very few incidents are caused by the rider. It is cheap, and does work.
New riders should consider that every male member of my family but me has metal parts in their body due to motorcycle accidents. I don't have metal parts, but have survived flying over a Dodge and several other things I had no control over.
Wear the gear and go home safe.
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 21, 2014 9:49:57 GMT -5
For those who think they only go a little ways, or only go slower than 30mph, or whatever--
In high school, I ran a 110-yard sprint against two girls who were sprinters. Me, I have long-distance muscles, not sprinting muscles. I knew this, always knew it, I would never be as fast as a sprinter. But my heart didn't pay attention to my brain and I did my best to keep up with those two girls. I made my body go faster than it could go--I literally over-ran my own body. Ended up sliding I-don't-know how many feet down the track. When I stopped, I picked myself up and finished the race.
Afterwards, the school nurse who happened to be there took me into her office, and picked asphalt out of my knee. And yes, that hurt like a bugger. Just like sliding along the track did. Just like after the race, with a knee minus a square-inch of flesh. I still have the scar, 25 years later.
I wasn't going 30mph. I doubt I was even hitting 10mph. That's why I drive my scooter all geared up. That's why I tell others to think hard about not wearing any gear. Like Paladin said, it IS your choice. But my choice is to care about folks I know--yes, even you folks I've never met off the internet--and to want you to stay as unharmed as possible should an accident happen.
>'Kat
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 21, 2014 9:55:43 GMT -5
Btb, I'm not sure how safe it is driving 45mph with one eye closed (there goes your depth perception) and head angled (there goes some of your field of view). Then again, I pull over and stop when for whatever reason one eye starts watering. But that's me. I'm probably just way over-cautious about reduced vision when driving.
>'Kat
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Post by Jarlaxle on Mar 21, 2014 11:43:05 GMT -5
My sister went down last year...pushed out of her lane by a car. Two knee surgeries, a skin graft, and a separated shoulder. $100,000+ in medical bills, fortunately, the guy that hit her was insured. Her helmet (modular Shoei) was scraped 360 degrees around & left paint on the K-rail she fell into.
She was going ten miles per hour.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 22, 2014 0:08:29 GMT -5
Many people downplay the need to wear riding gear until they have a realtivly minor off that cripples them for the rest of their life due to their lack of decent riding gear and then the most resonable amoung them will admit they if they could go back in time they would go back to the beginning when they first started riding to tell themselves to gear up all the time as it was not worth it.
Look at some of the most vocal helmet protesters over the years and you will see many have died due to not wearing a helmet on their way to protest having to wear a helmet and then those protesters that crashed and survived their head injury are now religiously wearing the best full face helmet money can buy.
The best fatherly advice is to get use to gearing up all the time and you will have the least amount of trouble down the road. Don't listen to naysayers that claim that riding gear dulls the senses or is too hot as there are plenty of reasonable priced choices out their that offer full faced and body protection at a reasonable cost which are comfortable to use in all kinds of climates.
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Post by spandi on Mar 22, 2014 0:49:28 GMT -5
Many people downplay the need to wear riding gear until they have a realtivly minor off that cripples them for the rest of their life due to their lack of decent riding gear and then the most resonable amoung them will admit they if they could go back in time they would go back to the beginning when they first started riding to tell themselves to gear up all the time as it was not worth it. Look at some of the most vocal helmet protesters over the years and you will see many have died due to not wearing a helmet on their way to protest having to wear a helmet and then those protesters that crashed and survived their head injury are now religiously wearing the best full face helmet money can buy. The best fatherly advice is to get use to gearing up all the time and you will have the least amount of trouble down the road. Don't listen to naysayers that claim that riding gear dulls the senses or is too hot as there are plenty of reasonable priced choices out their that offer full faced and body protection at a reasonable cost which are comfortable to use in all kinds of climates. HALF A BLOCK from the motorcycle shop! articles.latimes.com/1988-12-05/local/me-711_1_actor-gary-busey
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 22, 2014 1:36:00 GMT -5
My son gets mad at me when he visits because I make him wear jeans, helmet and glasses. I tell him "son, don't be dumb like your dad". He realized what I was talking about after he saw a spring breaker go down pretty hard. After seeing some of the nuts on scooters and cars I don't ride down to the end of the beach much anymore. I like my little part of the beach where traffic stays the same all year (slow and not much of it). I find myself staying in the neighborhoods a lot more then I use to. Safer that way. i have had 2 minor falls on a scooter. once in the 80's and once just last year. both times not a car in sight. you never know when or how it might happen. could be a pot hole, a dog, a squirrel, gravel, oil... meh, just saying their are many potential hazards not only cagers. and that last minor fall put me out of work for a week. i only had helmet and gloves. bought an armored mesh jacket after that spill. probably would have been back to work sooner if i was wearing it then.
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