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by: bobshaw - Sept 20, 2013 13:18:28 GMT -5
Post by bobshaw on Sept 20, 2013 13:18:28 GMT -5
I finally bought an armored jacket, a used First Gear Mesh-Tex II jacket. It really seems like a quality product. The only problem with it is that it is missing the inner liner, but, I've got a nylon wind breaker that will probably do the same thing.
I've been concerned about not wearing something more substantial since I laid my scoot down in June, and got road rash and a sprained shoulder. Hopefully I'll never need the armor, but, then again, I didn't think I would need it before either.
I was concerned about the armor being hot, as I ride in Georgia and Florida, but, in my rides so far, the mesh in the jacket seems to "breathe" pretty well. I guess it could get warm when stopped at a long traffic light.
I think the armor would have really save me a lot of issues.
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by: spandi - Sept 20, 2013 13:25:20 GMT -5
Post by spandi on Sept 20, 2013 13:25:20 GMT -5
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by: bobshaw - Sept 20, 2013 14:27:49 GMT -5
Post by bobshaw on Sept 20, 2013 14:27:49 GMT -5
Aah, did you see the price of those things? Maybe if I was trying to ride in Arizona during the summer, but, that seems a little extreme for Georgia and Florida..
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by: scooter12 - Sept 20, 2013 21:47:02 GMT -5
Post by scooter12 on Sept 20, 2013 21:47:02 GMT -5
Mesh jackets are cool and body armor is great to have protection. I am going to get a mesh jacket soon, also.. Never can get enough protection.
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by: rockynv - Sept 20, 2013 21:53:08 GMT -5
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by: jdmsoldier - Sept 21, 2013 0:51:23 GMT -5
Post by jdmsoldier on Sept 21, 2013 0:51:23 GMT -5
that poncho vest is hella expensive. I've been riding with just gloves, helmet, t-shirt, shorts. Understandable since you got into an accident that you'd want to protect your body more. I've seen a few different types of armor and padded jackets,I'm on Oahu and its pretty hot or warm all year long, so I've been trying to avoid wearing more clothing than I need to, although it is suppose to be safer when you wear long everything.
I know we are talking about safety, which is important, however, I have also been focused on my comfort level and also appearance. Granted I won't care about that if I'm laying on the ground with broken bones, but it cant be helped. That jacket you bought looks nice, and it is a little on the expensive side regardless that it has the advantage of added protection. I would feel odd wearing it though on my little powerless moped. I feel as though the big boy bikes should wear. Insecurity issues I know, maybe I just need to google a bit more and find some under armor type stuff or a jacket that suits me better.
This thread made me re-think the extra protection though, since you also felt as though you didn't need it, until you got into a scrape. I'd rather learn from other's mistakes than to experience it myself. those.
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by: rockynv - Sept 21, 2013 5:49:18 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Sept 21, 2013 5:49:18 GMT -5
A good friend didn't think he needed armor and thought his helmet with bubble face shield was good enough. After a low speed bump below 25 mph and several days unconsious in the ER he began to think differently especially as he began to take inventory. Fractured jaw since he did not have a full face helmet, broken shoulder and elbow damage from lack of armor, chipped vertabrae again no back protection armor, hand and knuckle damage including fractures from lack of riding gloves and the worst was since he was not wearing riding boots his shoes came off and he split one of his feet between the toes all the way to the shin bone on a sheet metal sign post. He spent a few months in the hospital and several more in hospice care before he was able to be transported back to Florida to enter a hospice closer to his home since his accident occured a thousand miles away from here. He will never walk straight again or ride and was in hospital and hospice care away from home for a full year and then took another year at home to go though physical therapy to be able to walk again having several follow up opreations to start removeing the temporary metal fixtures they had put inside him to lock his joints up while the bones mended. Plumaria grows well here in Southern Florida too however there is mesh and perforated leather armored gear that works well in our tropical heat and humidity. Leather Up has Xelement Level 3 Mesh Armored Jackets that cost around $50/$60 on sale and work well in hot humind climates. www.leatherup.com/p/Mens-Mesh-Motorcycle-Jackets/Xelement-Mens-Silver-Igniter-Tri-Tex-Fabric-and-Mesh-Motorcycle-Jacket/53267.html
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by: ramblinman - Sept 21, 2013 5:49:27 GMT -5
Post by ramblinman on Sept 21, 2013 5:49:27 GMT -5
[replyingto=jdmsoldier]jdmsoldier[/replyingto]a few months ago i laid my scoot down going about 35-40 mph. luckily landed on wet grass and walked away unscratched but my muscles took a week to heal. i can only imagine how much worse it would have been if i hit the pavement. since then i bought this jacket: www.motorcycle-superstore.com/5/15/152/46506/ITEM/Joe-Rocket-Velocity-Jacket.aspxthis jacket has great ventilation as long as you're moving. even on hot days i've been very comfortable. on the morning rides before the sun comes up, i actually am cold with the waterproof liner removed.
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by: SylvreKat - Sept 21, 2013 6:58:08 GMT -5
Post by SylvreKat on Sept 21, 2013 6:58:08 GMT -5
soldier, quite honestly I usually feel rather over-dressed when I'm all geared up and getting on my scooter. But I don't care about how I appear. I'd much rather feel safe that should I go down ever again my skin should stay where God put it.
And while KS likely doesn't get as hot-humid-muggy as HI, we do get icky days. I haven't felt too hot in my mesh jacket/pants/gloves. I flip up my visor at stops is all. I will admit though I finally remembered I bought a Cool-It vest and wore it the last couple hot days, and was fine ever at stops.
My coworker's boyfriend refuses to wear gear 'cause he can't handle hot at all. Wears an armored vest. He had his rear tire hit a grease spot (they think) and go out, then throw him. Rashed his knee, the backs of both hands, one arm, and cracked ribs. His helmeted head was unhurt.
My question then--would you rather worry about your comfort level like he did, and worse your appearance, and maybe go through the discomfort (pain, annoyance) of healing skin? Or ride in mesh and look overdressed and maybe feel warmer at long stops? Me, I'm going for safety, always and always no matter what speed or how short a trip I'll be going.
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by: tarkus - Sept 21, 2013 8:33:31 GMT -5
Post by tarkus on Sept 21, 2013 8:33:31 GMT -5
This gear isn't for the crash that kills you it's for the one you survive. Skin makes a crappy brake pad and its no fun having somebody pick road grime out of shredded skin.
When I need "evaporative cooling" I do it like we did back in the day on the HD. Wet a tee shirt, hold on boys not that kind of wet tee, put it on then a jacket. Leave cuffs open enough for air flow and you'll be chilly on a 90degree day.
Repeat as needed.
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by: bobshaw - Sept 21, 2013 11:45:27 GMT -5
Post by bobshaw on Sept 21, 2013 11:45:27 GMT -5
It was the wreck that pushed me to the armor. Wearing a polo shirt, shorts and sandals, I laid the bike down, I locked the brakes up (I think), and was down and sliding, on my belly, in a heart beat. I got first and second degree road rash on both arms, and my right leg and some third degree on my knee, elbow and knuckles. In additon, I sprained my right shoulder, and my right hip/thigh was bruised down to my knee. That was 3 1/2 months ago, and I still have problem with my shoulder and my leg still looks nasty. And yes, I was picking asphalt out of my arm for weeks. I didn't think I needed to suit-up since I was just running up to the store. Where I had clothing, I didn't get road rash, although the asphalt rubbed holes in my denim shorts and shirt, and the large straps on my sandals mostly protected my feet, and got ripped off. I must have been a sight, because the ladies in the emergency room panicked, and expedited my treatment. I was in and out in less than an hour. And the worst part, I coulden't ride for a couple of months. I think the padding in the armor would have prevented the injuries to my shoulder and arms. It's right where I hit and slid. I think I'll wear my armor and at least blue jeans and solid shoes, hope I don't need them.
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by: SylvreKat - Sept 21, 2013 17:41:40 GMT -5
Post by SylvreKat on Sept 21, 2013 17:41:40 GMT -5
tarkus' comment made me think. I went down on the high school's asphalt track. I was RUNNING, people. Which means I don't know how slow. I think my very best 100-yard sprint was about 20 seconds (hey! I don't have sprinter genes, so give me a break).
He's right--having asphalt picked out of my knee was NOT fun. It hurt. And I seem to recall the healing wasn't grand fun either--constant itchy burning. And it left a scar still visible today.
That was just sliding down a track when running. Now think how sliding down a road when riding would feel. Erg!
Bob, I'd suggest also getting the pants, too. They usually have padding on the hips and armor on the knees. And wear a pair of boots--don't need to be riding boots, just ones that tie snug over your ankles. Sorry about your injuries, and glad it wasn't worse.
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by: jdmsoldier - Sept 21, 2013 20:01:33 GMT -5
Post by jdmsoldier on Sept 21, 2013 20:01:33 GMT -5
So after reading this yesterday i looked online for something that I might be able to feel comfortable in and is also in a sort of affordable price range and thought maybe I could wear something like this, UNDER a baggy t-shirt; www.revzilla.com/motocross/troy-lee-bp-7850-hot-weather-armored-shirtAlthough it does not protect elbow down, they have a long sleeve version too for the same price. I wonder though if it will look odd at all, or fit the shape of my upper body under a shirt. Does anyone own one of these?
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by: SylvreKat - Sept 21, 2013 21:50:25 GMT -5
Post by SylvreKat on Sept 21, 2013 21:50:25 GMT -5
Looks pretty good to me, so that should ease your "will it look odd" concerns. Only thing is it's actually for bicyclists not motorcyclists. So it may not help a lot if you're going faster than a bike goes. Still, it's better than wearing no protection at all. Here's some motorcyclist mesh jackets that are around the same price-- www.powersports4less.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=HH-6013-0205-04www.powersports4less.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=wps-477-4020www.powersports4less.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=WPS-477-4010Those were just in their first couple pages when I searched "mesh jacket". Probably more choices, there were 9 pages of merch. And while you might think you'll look odd wearing a jacket, I would think you should worry more about how odd you'll look all scabby from road rash. Besides that this gal thinks riders look odd with a helmet and no other gear, and look smart wearing jacket and gloves and helmet. >'Kat, who still says folks should quit worrying about how they look and worry instead on how they're protected
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by: jdmsoldier - Sept 21, 2013 22:44:16 GMT -5
Post by jdmsoldier on Sept 21, 2013 22:44:16 GMT -5
If I were to get a jacket I think i'd probably get something along the lines of that. It's not flashy, but not ugly. I think it's somewhere along the middle for my 50cc. Still I am set on trying to find a good armor that I can wear underneath my clothing and it not be visible. Also, I don't think that one is for bicyclists I think its for motor cross, but I youtubed it yesterday and the guy was talking about how its used for motorcyclists, snow mobiles, atv, and etc. If It can be worn underneath unnoticeable, it would be good to soften a blow from a punch too. It's suppose to have a soft foam interior and a hard shell on the front, so a dude would go like "?" after he bashes his knuckles into it.
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