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Post by brandjur on Jun 9, 2013 19:17:15 GMT -5
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Post by brandjur on Jun 9, 2013 18:22:37 GMT -5
My stock TaoTao ATM50 does 40MPH, but when fueling with BP Premium fuel (over here in USA), it goes a lot faster. When the engine is heated up, and the roads are level, it goes upto 48MPH, 53 with some wind in the back. If you're living in a hilly area, the BBK is going to give you better climbing ability. It does very little on top speed, unless you also change the gearing. Are you sure about the top speed not being affected by a BBK. I put bbk's into 2 different scooters that I already de-restricted. A 47mm bbk added about 10 more mph with the increased torque and hp.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 9, 2013 18:16:05 GMT -5
I don't believe it "adds" to the main jet. It is conjunction with it. So, overall fuel going to the cylinder could be affected by the a/f screw. I don't think you are going to get an exact percentage of how much the idle jet affects the overall fuel percentage, especially with the differences in carbs. I think it matters more on paper than real world applications. Once your idle is set, then use the your good judgement to adjust the the needle and main jet to fine tune the happy medium between off idle and wot.
Good luck.
Prodigit - you already have more than 800 posts since the new board has been open in its few months? Wow!
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Post by brandjur on Jun 9, 2013 0:43:09 GMT -5
The a/f screw isn't 100% unrelated for off idle. If you want to adjust the mixture for off idle, do so with the main jet and the needle once the idle has been adjusted. Here is a picture to help visualize and just do a Google search to learn how it works.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 8, 2013 22:14:12 GMT -5
There are 2 things that crossed my mind. If you have the Airsal kit, it is aluminum. Remember that Aluminum is more prone to warping if it is overheated, which a lean condition can do.
Also, you say it's fine for about 60s. I wonder if you are not getting enough fuel into the bowl of your carb. Are you sure your fuel filter is not clogged or if directional, is the right way. Make sure that your fuel flow is good as well as the vacuum line for it.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 8, 2013 17:13:37 GMT -5
Your main jet is too small. When you drilled out a main jet to something like #100, that was too big. Start with the correct parts first. Get a main jet that is around #92, then adjust the needle as needed. The a/f screw is more for idle adjustment than off idle.
Again, this is based on you having the 50mm bbk with a performance head.
Good luck.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 8, 2013 17:02:12 GMT -5
Hi all, So, within a month I purchased 2 of Enviromoto's Power Pack for the 139qmb. I also bought 2 NCY CDIs and 1 new carb. 2 separate purchases for 2 different scooters. Thats over $400! The first time I ordered, it took him more than 3 days to ship the stuff out and not until I contacted him did he tell me that he was out of an item and had to wait on it. I ordered on a Tues morning and hoping to get it by the weekend. I am only about 3 hrs driving distance from him. Well, he didn't send it out until Friday afternoon and I was hoping to do the install over the weekend. The 2nd time I purposely emailed him on a Monday if he had all the parts in stock and he said yes. I wanted to make sure so I could get my stuff to install on the weekend. Well, I got a response the next day and ordered. Again, not until I asked about the shipping did he tell me he was out of stock on something. He put into Google wallet that he shipped the item on Thursday afternoon (probably just got shipping label for it). Well, he didn't get it to the post office until Friday afternoon again. Shipping wouldn't normally be a big deal, but I have to use a different address for the weekend because of where I am going to be. His packages have to be signed for with USPS. Both shipments arrived on Monday and I had to drive to the weekend locations to pick up. THEN!!! The NCY CDI that I purchased didn't work!. I emailed him, sent him pics of my wiring, sent him a video of the CDI not getting power with the key, and he tried to tell me that I had a DC system (again 50cc 139qmb scooter), and that I ruined the NCY CDI (AC). He then reiterated his no return policy even copy and pasting it. I told him I didn't want a return, but wanted an exchange for a working CDI. Nope. After ordering a DC CDI that didn't work, getting help on this forum to clearly identify that I have an AC CDI (which confirmed what I thought), I emailed Jeremy Hall TWICE if he had the pinouts for the NCY CDI so perhaps I could work with my wiring to make the NCY CDI work. NO RESPONSE TO THIS DAY! What's funny is I get more responses and better customer service from Scrappydog. I mean, they email you if they don't have a part and it's estimated arrival, I canceled an order with full refund, items shipped next day, and you can get some of their stuff cheaper on ebay. I paid for 2 CDIs that don't work on my scooter and Jeremy Hall is ignoring my emails. Funny is he is quick to get back to me if I am asking about purchasing a product....
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Post by brandjur on Jun 7, 2013 21:42:07 GMT -5
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Post by brandjur on Jun 7, 2013 0:41:28 GMT -5
Congrats on the install! A BBK was the first thing I did on mine and it is much easier to install than new owners think. Too bad you are just out of reach being in Mchenry. I'm in Chicago.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 5, 2013 11:58:29 GMT -5
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Post by brandjur on Jun 4, 2013 23:11:24 GMT -5
I appreciate your help. Unfortunately, I don't have the Peace scooter with me, other wise I was going to look at its wiring. Also, Jeremy hasn't emailed me back.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 4, 2013 0:04:46 GMT -5
JR,
Please relax. After doing a lot of research, I have run into a situation and that is why I sought help from this message board.
This is my "saga" as I am dealing with my scooter issues. It isn't over for me and I was merely asking for any guidance, help, or experience from others. One reason I am concerned is that if ever my original CDI quits, then it won't start with a replacement CDI. I am just trying to figure it out. If it helps someone else out in the future, at least it will be archived.
I do know the other factory CDI is working as it worked on the other scooter. However, it does not work on mine. All the CDIs are for 4t.
I will go to Jeremy Hall at Enviromoto and ask him about the CDI wiring pins/colors. Last time I emailed him he was very defensive of his non-return policy. He also tried to lead me down a road of believing I was wrong in thinking it was an AC CDI. That lead me to waste more money and purchase a DC unit.
Thank you for your help, but please, let's keep this light. One of the reasons why my initial post was long is to reassure that I was trying to be thorough with my homework and my wrenching.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 3, 2013 17:31:27 GMT -5
The extra oil being pushed could be caused by excessive blow by or a burnt piston (at the worst). If you were running that bbk with a stock main jet, then you were running the risk of burning a valve or piston from the heat. Is it a coincidence that your problem is happening when the weather got warmer? Maybe not, because the engine might not be as cool as the winter. Also check your oil level if oil has been blowing out a lot. Less oil means less cooling as well.
As far as oil ending up on the ground. It might have always been leaking out as you ride....you just see a puddle when stopped.
If I were you, I would take that bbk apart and see the condition of the piston, valves, and rings. If you are lucky, there is no damage, or there is only damage to the rings and the cylinder wall is still in good shape.
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Post by brandjur on Jun 3, 2013 17:10:40 GMT -5
I use # main jet with my NCY 47mm bbk and if memory serves me right, you have the Airsal 50mm kit. You need a bigger main jet than # . Also double check with your valves and cam timing alignment. How does your plug look?
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Post by brandjur on Jun 3, 2013 16:51:31 GMT -5
Hi JR, I am not questioning you at all. I agree with you. I appreciate your feedback and help. I already did the battery test and the engine keeps on running while disconnecting the battery. The problem I have now is I do have an NCY performance AC CDI as well as an AC CDI from a newer 2012 Peace scooter 50cc TPGS-811. Mine is a 2009 MC-17 50cc. The AC CDIs from NCY and from the Peace scooter does not start the engine. Only my original CDI starts the engine. The only reasons I mentioned the DC is because Jeremy at Enviromoto said the NCY CDI was not defective and that I have a DC CDI. So, I went and purchased a DC CDI, against my own belief. So, unfortunately the saga does continue as I already have 2 other AC CDIs (see pic) and the engine doesn't start with them plugged in. When I switch back to the original CDI after trying the 2 other AC CDIs, the original CDI fires the engine right up on the 2nd turnover. Attachments:
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