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Well, YTX7A-BS is actually the size and capacity of the battery you are looking at based on the Yuasa coding system. Yuasa's method of naming batteries has become essentially de-facto in the power sports industry since they are the OE battery found in most Japanese bikes and many american products as well, and all the other batter manufactures just copied it. Have you looked at any brands of batteries in that size yet? This is where the difference lies.

A few things you'll want to pay attention to:

Cheap "Gel" Batteries: Most of the time if the battery is inexpensive, and marketed as "Gel", it's not actually a Gel battery so much as it's a maintenance free AGM battery. AGM stands for "absorbed glass mat", and instead of a liquid or a gel holding the acid to the plates inside the cells, the acid is held by a fiberglass mat. There's nothing wrong with these (on the contrary, a good quality AGM battery is indeed a very good thing and what I would recommend), but it is misleading marketing. True Gel batteries tend to be fairly spendy, be wary of cheap gel.

If you are in the upper level market for a battery, and you want traditional Lead Acid, just buy a Yuasa. You'll pay for it, but they are great batteries. Can't go wrong with a Yuasa.

I would recommended that you get comfortable with a couple of brands of batteries that have a proven track record.

Also, not all Chinese batteries are created equal, and this holds truer than some other good/bad Chinese built parts. I source my Universal Parts brand batteries from a very particular factory in China, and they take their quality very seriously. So much so that we stopped carrying a different "uplevel" brand of battery due to the fact that our batteries we experiencing substantially lower failure than the supposedly better batteries. They do cost a bit more than the most affordable of Chinese batteries however.

I also visited some pretty scary factories however, and sad to say there are some pretty terrible quality cheap batteries on the market right now too.


Matt

Weird. I'm sorry this happened to you. We don't actually see any money from payment processing until we confirm shipment. This sounds like it was more of a PayPal issue than it was with us unfortunately. I'm not a huge fan of PalPal personally for payment processing... sometimes I think they make this harder than it needs to be. Feel free to give me a call, shoot me an email here at the office or drop a chat on the website and ask for me and I'll do my best to help you out. 866-478-8700 or matt@partsforscooters.com

Matt

Okay, post is still up. Fair warning, this is gonna be a loooong post. I'll add a TL;DR at the bottom to sum it all up for those that don't want to get into the nitty gritty. Please discuss this, I don't get the chance to be transparent about what we do and I how I feel all that often, and I'd really like the feedback this can bring, both good and bad.

I'm going to address a few points here.

Since rcq92130 has stated (in a different thread, I believe) that he'll no longer do business with us, to me this becomes an opportunity to shoot straight with everyone else involved and those who may read this thread in the future about PartsForScooters, our warranty and return policy, our responsibility to the consumer and the consumer's responsibility to themselves. If some of this comes off blunt or a little heavy handed I'd like to apologize beforehand, as there are only so may ways to type this out in a forum.

I took a hard look at how this all happened, and why we now have an unhappy customer, and asked a few questions around the office as well. I do this every time we have an unhappy customer in an effort to re-evaluate our policies to make sure that we are doing the best we can. Here's what I learned from this event.

I think on some level, both us and rcq92130 are to blame for the breakdown.

Could we have put more information on the part to help eliminate this kind of situation? Yes. Will we? Probably if we find we need to. We've been selling this part on our site unchanged since 2007. This is the first time that a customer has had an issue to this degree with this particular part. In fact, we've only ever had 5 returns on this particular part since we started selling it. We've sold several hundred over the years. Not a particularly high volume part on the grand scheme, but enough so that we keep ordering it. Consequently up until this point the information on the part has been enough. What we know is that on these engine mounts, they come in a few sizes and all of the various sizes are used on GY6 QMI/QMJ 152/157 bikes, hence we put the overall length on the part as well. It turns out on this particular part, the overall length is the only measurement that matters, since the positioning of the mounts is determined by that factor alone. If you need a 14" mount, then this is the one. The other information, while nice to have is actually superfluous to the determination as to whether this part is correct for any given application, hence it's not listed. If you're mount isn't exactly 14":



Then this isn't going to work; In the ballpark doesn't count. Could a phone call alleviated the problem? Sure. Should a phone call have to be made? In a perfect world, no... but Chinese scooters aren't a perfect world... by far. This is our mistake however, I accept that. We made the assumption that what we had listed made sense, and I'll address this.

Lets take an aside here for a moment and explain what we do and don't pay shipping on when it comes to returns (short take, there are exceptions when warranted, but for the most part this is policy stuff):

Customer orders part, part arrives broken: We pay replacement and shipping. Will require photo.

Customer orders part, part arrives different than pictured or described on site: We issue RMA, pay return shipping and refund original shipping.

Customer orders part at our verbal or direct communication recommendation: We issue RMA, pay return shipping and refund original shipping.

Customer orders part, part fails within warranty: We replace part and pay shipping. Will require photo sometimes.

Customer orders part on their own, part doesn't fit but matches website. We issue RMA, customer pays shipping.

If you order from us, and don't communicate with us any questions (and seriously, you can submit a case on the website, email, call, send in a chat on the site... We are the easiest company in the scooter industry to get a hold of and ask questions. If it's between 9-6 EST, we're here, and if you ask nicely and I'm not in a meeting you could even end up talking to me.), and haven't performed the due diligence of making sure the measurements match, we don't have any choice but to assume that you know what you are ordering. We do not pay return shipping, nor refund shipping in this situation. Ever. We did our part and fulfilled the order to the best of our abilities given the situation.

In this particular instance, The customer measured his part (inaccurately unfortunately) found that the part is listed for GY6 QMI/QMJ 152/157 bikes (which is correct) and assumed that because his measurement was close, this would work. Unfortunately not so. As far as our system is concerned, this is a customer error. This is the half where the customer is at fault. There is an assumed responsibility on the part of the customer here, and rightly so (as summed up by JerryScript ). We can only do so much on our end, and we work HARD to make sure that what we have on a part is correct. So much so, that many of the measurements and information on parts across the internet have been lifted from our site. We have 5700+ SKUs at the moment that we manage, with constantly updated pictures and specifications, so ricardoguitars jerry1011 , if you guys can find someone that has the breadth of parts for Chinese bikes that we do with more and better information that we have and with more up to date photos, point me in that direction and I'll make sure to figure out a way to top what they do.

Honestly, I'm sorry that the wording here hurt your feelings rcq92130, but we only have so may options to choose from with an automated business system. Stephanie didn't write that in the form to make you unhappy, but it is necessary to differentiate the nature of the return for our internal metrics. I'm also sorry that the part didn't work. I know that your bike was out of commission while waiting on the part, and then for it to arrive and not be correct is very frustrating. I really do get that, but it's not entirely our fault here either and I think that the vast majority of our customers would agree that we aren't out to screw people, and we really do stand behind what we do. If we didn't, I wouldn't be taking the time to type all of this, I simply wouldn't care. I'll be personally looking into your return today to make sure the part is here and that it has been processed through our returns department and your refund is on its way.


Matt


TL;DR We didn't have enough information on the part for the consumer ; his measurement didn't match up with the information we do have. He says our listing says it should fit his bike, I say our listing says it fits a genera of bikes. Essentially we disagree. While I feel bad, I don't think our policy is faulty in this instance.

We put nitrous on all of our race bikes... Not sure I'd recommend it for day to day use, but it sure can be done on a scooter if you really want.

Matt

Just food for thought, putting a car tire on a bike is commonly called riding darkside. If you google that you can find many of the pros and cons associated. It's a pretty heated argument. I'm certainly not going to tell anyone what to do here, but suffice to say I don't think I'd ride with a car tire on my bike.


Matt

Guys, thanks for the kind words!

Rocky - It was a pleasure having you visit and see how we operate.

Justin - You're the man!


Matt

A 130/70 section tire will transition side to side a tad slower than a 120, and can make the feeling of the bike a bit sluggish due to an increased contact patch. It will also have a bit taller of a sidewall, and along with the increased width, can sometimes can cause fitment issues on some scooters.

I know many people want to increase contact patch for safety reasons, but if you are running stock Chinese rubber on a Chinese scooter, you'll get for more out of a better quality tire than you will out of a simply wider tire. If you already have a feel for 120's, I would stick with that size and look at a higher quality name brand set of hoops, such as Heidenau, Michelin, Pirelli, Kenda or Vee Rubber.


Matt