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Post by JerryScript on Mar 10, 2014 17:20:11 GMT -5
Last week we had a bit of rain, and I spun out the rear end when taking off from a stoplight and turning right. No damage to me or the scooter luckily, but it made me realize I have modded my engine and cvt to have too much torque for my skinny rear tires, 3.5-10. Can I put a fatter wheel/tire on the rear? I know it can be too tight on the front, but I have a single shock mount, and there seems to be plenty of clearance on the right side.
If I can do this, any recommendations on wheels/tires?
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 10, 2014 17:32:04 GMT -5
what's your tire brand? i ride in the rain often and never had a problem with my 3.50-10" Pirelli's. my scoot probably doesn't have as much torque but those soft Pirelli tires really do grip the road, rain or shine. i don't know about wider tires, if you hit oil i doubt any tire would hold the road.
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 10, 2014 18:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by PCBGY6 on Mar 10, 2014 18:53:24 GMT -5
Not sure about your scooter but a lot of the ones with ten inch rims can't handle anything bigger then a 3.5 tire.
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 10, 2014 22:26:28 GMT -5
Not sure about your scooter but a lot of the ones with ten inch rims can't handle anything bigger then a 3.5 tire. I know that's true on the front tire, but it definitely seems like there's plenty of room in the rear (other than the mud guard of course).
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Post by korn858 on Mar 11, 2014 1:03:18 GMT -5
I'm not sure about size, but if you can find Pirelli's then I would do that. I have them, and what a difference. Easily the best purchase for a smoother ride.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 11, 2014 4:25:20 GMT -5
You will probably be better served by putting a decent tire on the bike in the orginal size. Even with a wider tire the contact patch on the road will still be about the size of a credit card. How old is the rear tire? They do start to harden after a few years loosing grip even without a lot of miles on them and regardless of the width will slip even new on the plastic lines from cross walks, traffic lines and direction arrows applied or painted near an intersection. Riding on two wheels one always has to be wary of these items especially in wet conditions.
If there is a fast food establishment or a car wash near the intersection you will need to be even more cautious as the grease from their garbage collector pulling out from the fast food place or soapy water from the car wash can leave the roadway pretty slick even when its dry. If your feet tend to slid out when you plant them at the stop then you tires regardless of their size or quality will tend to slip when you start off again.
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 11, 2014 11:39:28 GMT -5
The scooter is a 2013 model, so the tires shouldn't be more than 1-2 years old at this point, and they have plenty of tread left. So it seems the general consensus is to get better tires. I'll take a ride over to Cycle Gear and see what they have in stock.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 11, 2014 12:12:43 GMT -5
Even the best tires are still going to slide on a soapy or greasy road. Cross walks and the traffic lines at intersections are always going to cause a bike problems especially if they are the 1/4 inch or thicker plastic ones that are applied/torched into the roadway. Painted lines can be very bad too as many municipalities apply them too thick at intersections without mixing sand with the paint.
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Post by fugaziiv on Mar 11, 2014 12:32:11 GMT -5
I'm going to agree with "You don't need a wider tire, you need a better tire." Case in point, I run 3.50x10's on my personal bike and it isn't hurting for power, but having quality rubber on the bike is the largest defining factor behind its handling. The compound of the rubber itself is what allows a better tire to work, well, better. Here is what I'd recommend: Racer style, aggressive, but if you ride in the rain, won't move as much water as the second option. Heidenau is made in Germany and is the highest quality that we carry. Very good stuff, comparable to Pirelli or Michelin: www.partsforscooters.com/154-158-Heidenau-3-50-10-K61-Racer-Scooter-TireOr if you ride in the rain a lot these might be a better option: www.partsforscooters.com/154-156-Heidenau-3-50-10-K47-Scooter-Street-TireKenda actually makes one of the best race style tires in the market. Period. These are what I run on my personal bike, and they are AWESOME (I know, they are out of stock, they sell crazy fast. We'll have them back very soon, possibly later today or tomorrow): www.partsforscooters.com/154-84_Kenda_TireAlso, in Vee Rubber, also a quality tire these are a good option and are bar none the best selling tire that we sell, by a long shot. And when a massive amount of something is selling with almost no complaints, well something must be right. Vee is so good now that they are starting to be used OE in some Honda applications, such as the Grom: www.partsforscooters.com/154-106_Vee_Rubber_TireMatt
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Post by larry001964 on Mar 11, 2014 18:31:00 GMT -5
I agree a better tire would do wonders. Pirelli's are a very good tire, Fawkes when out from under me once when he was a stroker, put on a set of Pirelli's, since then have driven in all weather, rain, snow, fog, had to make a few panic maneuvers never has he gone out from under me again.. I'm told Michelin makes a good tire, but i have no personal experience with them..
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 12, 2014 11:27:37 GMT -5
Thanks everyone, new tires it is, and I appreciate the links with descriptions/advice too fogaziiiv!
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