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Post by w650 on Nov 22, 2016 7:18:02 GMT -5
Kymco does make great scooters, but wow, have they thinned the herd. Only one 150cc now and the Movie is gone. I have a Like 50cc at the moment and while it's no barn burner it is well built. If I ever see a bargain on the Like 200 I just might snatch it up. The ride of my 50cc Like with more horsepower would be pretty compelling.
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Post by w650 on Nov 21, 2016 16:24:23 GMT -5
It might be but people have figured out ways to meet emissions and add horsepower. An NC 700 might very well be meeting emissions and have high fuel economy but it's not entry level. It's big, it's powerful and it won't help a beginner, even with DCT. And look what they did to the Rebel. powersports.honda.com/2017/rebel-300.aspx#specificationsThe Chinese are filling a gap left behind by even the Japanese. Lightweight, low powered and unintimidating motorcycles capable of cruising the highways. They might make bikes that last forever but who keeps a 250 forever. $5000 for a 250 Dual Sport? powersports.honda.com/2017/crf250l/street.aspx#y4THwPP0H7H62KwE.97 |
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Post by w650 on Nov 21, 2016 9:30:18 GMT -5
I think the Chinese are happy trolling the lower levels at the moment. None of the big players are selling street 250s anymore. They moved to 300cc and $5000 plus except for Honda's CB 300F at four large. All the various 250cc bikes the Chinese sell fill the entry level and bottom budget areas. 65% of all scooter sales are 50cc and the Chinese are flooding the market with inexpensive product that are doing the job.
Proof of that is the large number of small scooters out there and the dwindling numbers of MIC sales of scooters. The Chinese and Taiwanese are not MIC members.
I don't doubt that a 450cc engine in a dual purpose bike will come from China soon. SSR has an off road version already and is doing quite well.
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Post by w650 on Nov 18, 2016 11:34:52 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Nov 17, 2016 17:15:28 GMT -5
I've done the no title thing three times. First there was Maine because they don't title under 250cc. Got the registration from there and registered the bike in New York.
Second, I went with a Titling agency and paid a fortune, $600. Same deal. They registered it in Vermont, got a registration and registered it in New York.
Third, I went to a guy who did Vermont for $225. The bike had a title from North Carolina, signed but not notarized. Vermont registered it, I got the bike registered and titled in New York.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Post by w650 on Nov 7, 2016 14:41:13 GMT -5
They were the basis for the later Rebel and Nighthawk series. I wish mine had a kick starter. The electric start is great but a backup kicker would be nice. I could pretend they were 60s Brit bikes.
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Post by w650 on Nov 7, 2016 14:29:31 GMT -5
Think about this logically Pete. The Voyager XII is probably packing more horses than a 70s or 80s Japanese econobox, has three disks and shaft drive. It would be like pulling a small trailer with a 1981 Toyota Corolla. At most the bike weighs half as much as a small car. I still have to give the guy props though. Not to mention the bike. They are two spirited adventurers.
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Post by w650 on Nov 3, 2016 9:07:53 GMT -5
Given your history of success with Chinese scooters you might want to look up a Bintelli or Wolf brand dealer. These people have raised the bar on scooter quality and both brands carry 150cc scooters.
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Post by w650 on Nov 3, 2016 9:03:11 GMT -5
You can vote up to four times if you have multiple scoots. I put it in both miles and kilometers. I'm at 61,300km/38,090mi(approx). Crazy to think about, lol. I'm just curious as to where everyone is at mileage wise. So many people come and go in these forums, it's fun to see a thread like this every once in awhile-- and it's a thread we can all participate in! I think that in the decades to come the 50cc GY6 engine will continue to be the stuff of legends. |
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Post by w650 on Nov 3, 2016 9:00:40 GMT -5
2008 Eagle Milano 150- 9,679 miles
2009 CF Moto Fashion- 16,223 miles
2009 MC-114 50cc Cub Clone- 4,317 miles
The first two Chinese scooters have had a few parts replaced. The last is a mini motorcycle and has been all but flawless.
No major malfunctions though.
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Post by w650 on Nov 2, 2016 6:05:53 GMT -5
Planning to take my bike with lighter clutch pull (R1200R) out for a short ride in a few days.
You have, what I assume you're saying, a BMW and you're asking about a Freeway commuter? The lightest, toughest bike in its class. I think you're already equipped for a long daily ride.
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Post by w650 on Nov 1, 2016 10:57:25 GMT -5
I don't know if I'll live to see it but the Chinese are moving in like the Japanese did. Making 250cc bikes for under $3500 from a dealer is a strong step. Also, a little known fact. Benelli is owned by Qianjiang. The 300 series is built in China but designed in Italy. Not sure about the 600. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_(motorcycles)Acquisitions like that will give the Chinese access to large engine technology without just copying. The ill fated CF Moto NK 650 appeared to be little more than an ER-n Kawasaki 650 re-bake. As noted elsewhere the VP of SSR used to work for American Suzuki. Those 250s SSR is importing look pretty good as economy/entry level models. |
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Post by w650 on Oct 31, 2016 16:10:32 GMT -5
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Post by w650 on Oct 31, 2016 12:44:41 GMT -5
Actually from what I read on Modern Vespa, it's because Vespa cheaped out on the high tension lead from the coil and the wire is slightly short stretching and pulling on the spark plug cap. I'm glad you have had such good luck with your Aprilia but you can't buy a new Sport City here anymore. I hear the Piaggio BV 350 is a marvelous weapon and might be up to the job.
In my world a motorcycle continues to be a stronger horse. Maybe in yours the scooter works better. Horses for courses. I continue to own both.
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Post by w650 on Oct 31, 2016 11:24:12 GMT -5
I had seen a really nice SSR Dual Purpose bike at Superior Scooters but it looks like they're moving on up.
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