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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 20:48:55 GMT -5
Why didn't you just buy from the supplier in the links? There are fees involved with eBay. I probably wouldn't have done it either. The stuff you needed was available. For some reason, you didn't want to buy from these suppliers. Just my opinion. Ebay and PayPal provide buyer protection not found in other online sources. They also hold sellers up to certain standards. This gives the buyer a certain level of confidence that they may not feel from an online e-tailer they've never dealt with. To each their own, but if a seller has an ebay store and an online store, I'll pick Ebay any day of the week.
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 20:42:28 GMT -5
I have to say I have not seen the harness buggy sells . ---- I heard buggy is pretty good . JR comes up with diagrams from thin air sometimes .John This is the harness they sell (and include for free if you purchase the 11 pole stage 2 kit) It's a nice "adapter" and all the required plugs are there. And here's a nice schematic provided by Buggy Depot. I wish JR could find me a schematic for the sunny (DongFang) 150cc DF150STG (Month Dec, Year 2012).
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 19:24:07 GMT -5
DM the names don't ring a bell . so what are you doing selling all those parts or is that the collection of parts you have acquired in an effort to solve this problem ?Scooter harnesses in general don't line up too well , there are so many variations of the scooters there is no set standards .
John The collection of parts is a long term strategy to do youtube videos defining "Chinese Scooter" parts. Specifically related to the GY6.In addition, some trade/swap meets, etc etc... I search ebay for bulk lots and I'm starting to get an inventory that rivals a scooter store....In addition, I'm going to attempt to completely strip and rebuild a few GY6's and do some stroker and boring kits....That's something I may buy from ya in the future is the boring tool, as long as it's the latest edition and decent price.... This particular scooter issue recently cropped up and has nothing to do with my parts collection. --------------------- Yep, there are a bunch of harnesses and it seems no two are the same.... I may have to run a couple of wires, but the important thing is all the plugs. On this particular scoot, the plugs mate up.
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 18:54:15 GMT -5
DM , no middleman here you can do as you please . So I was just wondering what the vendor has to say about the problem your trying to solve ? Before during and after sale support and the dirty word "tech help" so did your request for tech help end up in ignored phone calls no answer to your messages . DM there is a reason I ask "what did the vendor say" . DM you and your little electrical problem has nothing to do with my mojo . DM will the harness reach on the kit you bought ? will you end up splicing wires anyway ?This was posted in the "Dealer and Parts Vendor Special" section , this area is for dealer/vendors to post there Specials . John John, I didn't mean to spoil your thread... I just click view new threads and hardly pay attention to what sub-forum I am in. If in anyway you felt like I was screwing something up for you, I'm sorry... I did not mean to... In fact I tried giving you a shout out saying you had the best discounts I've seen. But I just thought it was a thread to share cyber monday deals and when I woke up today, my Inbox was full of them...I don't know until I get it.... Is there some insight or something you have to share regarding this particular harness?
I have not contacted the vendor.... As Alleyoop points out all the time, Vendors mostly sell parts and don't have intimate knowledge of specs.... I was on this forum, Proffessor, Doc and 49cc asking for help, not Vendors...
You were the only Vendor that responded with a link to a kit that would fix my problem, I found a better deal... Thats why I started a different thread with my link to buggydepot.. I didn't want you to feel like I was stealing your thunder....
Oh yeah, one more thing for the record....... I have zero affiliation with ANY parts or scooter vendors. I only give a shout out when I find a good deal.
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 17:57:24 GMT -5
Oh I get it the self proclaimed spokes person for scooter parts vendors or just cyber Monday specialist Oh I get it, the parts middle man is miffed because he feels like his mojo is being stolen... You like that comment? Well, I don't appreciate yours either. I thought this was a thread to share cyber-Monday deals, just like the Black friday thread. Not a spot for TVNACMAN to run his "exclusive adds".... I was trying to contribute to the entire forum, not just serve my own self interest.
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 17:38:36 GMT -5
It is setup for scooter with AC CDI and is truly plug'n play for scooters of this variety. It even has the feed for the enricher. Some of these scooters, even though the lights are 12VDC, the lights themselves don't care if it's AC or DC and in order to gain a little extra power, the lights get AC power. Now I'll try to explain this without being rude.... Stators produce AC, that AC is converted to DC by the R/R... Here's where it gets tricky.. Some scoot manufacturers take power from the AC for lights, some use DC for the lights... Now, depending upon the amount of power the stator produces and how the R/R is configured, if you use a system that's configured for DC and put it on an AC CDI/lights/choke scoot, you'll tax the out of your R/R and likely burn it up. and vice'versa...In short, you have X amount of available power of coming from the AC of the stator, and Y amount coming from the DC side... Over tax either, and you'll burn up said component.In the case of this particular stator is doesn't matter ONLY because it has enough power for most scooter applications running from the AC or DC power output of this setup....
--------------------------------- When Bashan chimed in, he seemed rather confrontational and I'm not on here to argue with anyone. He seems like a pretty a cool guy and rather than get in a pissing match, I thought I would "just let it ride"...
But the reason I didn't post this link in that thread was specifically to avoid affronting anyone who was offering a similar product. BTW, BuggyDepot offers the adapter cables free with purchase, do you?
NO and for good reason too . So you got this whole thing together already ? John No, I just ordered it last night.... I was looking at .00 shipped with the harness or $125.00 (plus S&H) from you... Had I known you were going to be running your sale (which comes to right about $ .00 as well) I probably would've ordered from you based on the recommendations of these scooter boards about you as an honest seller.. Actually, I think I may have purchased from you before on ebay... Do you recall selling a few lots of scooter parts in a combo package to ronsauctionstuff? Over half the order was NCY stuff. BTW, what's your good reason why you don't carry the harness? I have been tinkering with getting this charging system working using various R/R's I had purchased (maybe from you) and one I got from PFS..... I made a video:
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 15:09:39 GMT -5
Your flasher relay
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 15:07:26 GMT -5
www.nycscooterparts.com/ We are proud to announce 20% off on Cyber Monday use coupon code "CM2014" Like us on facebook and contact us via facebook for an extra 5% off your order !!!!!!!!!! any here with over 1000 posts PM me for a special deal , John 20% + 5% is pretty sweet! That's one of the best Cyber Monday deals I have came across yet! www.partsforscooters.com/ is offering 15% sitewide. www.drowsports.com/ is offering 15% sitewide
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 14:40:15 GMT -5
Why? What's the advantage? None if your not having any charging issues and/or do not need any extra power. According to info I found on Ali-baba, this kit produces 121 watts. One of my scooters has a very crappy charging system but the manufacturer thought it would be a good idea to put dual 25/watt lights on this scooter. I managed to get my charging system working converting a 5 pin regulator and I'm at a strong 13.5+ Volts... Hook up my lights and I drop into the low 12v range. For the record, you get no performance gains other than more electrical power.
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 14:33:43 GMT -5
Is it ac or dc stator ? What ever happened to my answer here It is setup for scooter with AC CDI and is truly plug'n play for scooters of this variety. It even has the feed for the enricher. Some of these scooters, even though the lights are 12VDC, the lights themselves don't care if it's AC or DC and in order to gain a little extra power, the lights get AC power. Now I'll try to explain this without being rude.... Stators produce AC, that AC is converted to DC by the R/R... Here's where it gets tricky.. Some scoot manufacturers take power from the AC for lights, some use DC for the lights... Now, depending upon the amount of power the stator produces and how the R/R is configured, if you use a system that's configured for DC and put it on an AC CDI/lights/choke scoot, you'll tax the out of your R/R and likely burn it up. and vice'versa...In short, you have X amount of available power of coming from the AC of the stator, and Y amount coming from the DC side... Over tax either, and you'll burn up said component.In the case of this particular stator is doesn't matter ONLY because it has enough power for most scooter applications running from the AC or DC power output of this setup....
--------------------------------- When Bashan chimed in, he seemed rather confrontational and I'm not on here to argue with anyone. He seems like a pretty a cool guy and rather than get in a pissing match, I thought I would "just let it ride"...
But the reason I didn't post this link in that thread was specifically to avoid affronting anyone who was offering a similar product. BTW, BuggyDepot offers the adapter cables free with purchase, do you?
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 1, 2014 2:33:51 GMT -5
Hey gang, If you've been considering an 11-pole upgrade kit for your scooter, now's the time to do it! BuggyDepot is running a Christmas sale until Dec 15th and has the stage 2, 11-pole stator/magneto with the matching flywheel and full wave rectifier/regulator. In addition, this kit includes the heavy duty adapter harness, this is a $35.00 value in itself. This is it folks, the real deal and complete kit. This complete Kit is normally $125.00, on Sale for $89.00. Now in addition, members get 2.5% off ($86.78) (membership is free) and new members get an extra $5.00 off. Brings it down to $81.78. Here's a a direct link - BuggyDepot Stage 2 11-pole upgrade kit
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 30, 2014 10:57:54 GMT -5
My Sunny 150cc - The wiring is the weak link My BMS Heritage 150cc - The Vacuum operated fuel pump My Bintelli Havoc(s) 150cc - I have not discovered a weak link.
I can not brag enough about Bintelli scooters. They should be pulled from the Chinese class of scooters and moved into Taiwanese territory... It's up there with Yamaha and Honda IMO. It's as if someone took a Chinese scoot and said, how can we perfect it.....
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 29, 2014 15:15:25 GMT -5
here is the mind blower : it is what you want it to be ! Bashin on doc did a full write up with illustration (I can't find the link) his scooter was a dc ignition system , he changed the stator and now can choose ac or dc cdi . He got several parts from me did a before and after . I will send him a message see if he can find it . John John, thanks, however I'm not interested in converting this scooter. All stators produce A/C, so yes it's possible, but the wiring for this scooter is setup for A/C. It currently uses an A/C CDI, so I need an 11 pole A/C stator kit. NOT a D/C stator and not one I have to convert. An A/C system powers the lights and they are activated the R/R, If I converted it, I would have to re-wire a bunch of extra stuff and add unnecessary work. If you don't know if it's A/C or D/C, that's fine.. But I am only interested in an A/C setup. D/C statorA/C stator
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 29, 2014 3:28:28 GMT -5
Hey John, is the 11-pole upgrade kit you sell AC or DC?
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Post by dmartin95 on Nov 28, 2014 19:41:51 GMT -5
Ok, I have hooked up the new regulator and the scooter is now getting a charge.....
However, the head lights will not come on...... Now, I'll get some pictures (or a video), the new R/R plug mates up to the harness and the colors match, but it left an empty black wire coming coming from the R/R....
The dark green wire that I pointed out in the video that comes from the harness side I spliced into the green wire (ground).... However, I think that was a mistake. I may need to jump the dark green to the black from the R/R....
The Black wire that's on the R/R is a wire that actives when the scoot is turned on. So, that could be whats responsible for turning power on to the lights....
I'm gonna have to get the multi-meter on it and see what's going on.... I still have not find a wire diagram for this scooter.
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