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Post by dmartin95 on Aug 22, 2014 21:17:08 GMT -5
Hi all, I was wondering if someone could share some light on a few things for me. First, I would like some general info about stator's. It appears to be the case that some scooters use DC, some AC and others even use a combination of both, AC and DC. First thing I am wondering about is the difference in poles/coils. Does more poles mean that it can generate more electricity? What lead me to this line of question is a few things. I was wanting to add a cigarette lighter/12V power port to my new Scooter (Bintelli Havoc 150cc). I also was wanting to add (or replace with HID) an additional head lamp for my wife's BMS Heritage 150cc. Now, I have been able to locate the wiring diagram for BMS Heritage, however my new havoc, the files are no where to be found. I think the Bintelli Havoc has a 12 pole DC stator. However, I can't find no way to verify this without digging into the engine because there is no parts diagram for the Havoc (There is a parts diagram on Bintellis website, but the diagram has no engine information at all). All I want to know about this Havoc is how much power can the 12 pole stator produce? Also, does anyone have a parts Diagram for the Bintelli Havoc 150cc engine? It is engine model BN157QMJ. I believe it's manufactured by ZNEN. My wifes BMS Heritage; her light "flickers" and is not very bright. With the highs on I have about a 25 ft viewing area and it flickers way too much. Not to the point of a strobe, but very annoying none the less. I have no idea what Stator this scooter has but if anyone else knows, I would love for you to share. Also, I would love it if anyone knew how many watts the Heritage stator can produce? Thank you for any advice you can share! Read more: 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/9870/seeking-manuals-wiring-diagrams-stators#ixzz3BB4cUJco
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Post by dmartin95 on Jul 27, 2014 12:12:17 GMT -5
That's awesome! Just looking at online pictures it's hard to see any marks on the jets.
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I was still curious about something.
If someone installs a 50mm Hoca BBK without doing any other mods, what kind of results should one expect?
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Post by dmartin95 on Jul 27, 2014 1:50:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the response!
The retailer I purchased this moped from is a fairly reputable one (Jason from Grand Rapids Scooter) and didn't strike me as dishonest. I hope it's not the case that I was deceived. I believe it supposed to have the Hoca 50mm BBK (That's what is listed on their site) but I have no idea if he jetted the carb.
But I will take your advice and pop off the head and measure the piston to make sure it is in fact a 50mm piston. I would hate to level any accusation against this company because they seemed like a really good company that knew their stuff.
I logged onto youtube and watched a couple videos on how to rejet the carb and it looks like something that's withing my capability. I also found stores that sells kits with 10 jets ranging from #72 to #110 jets for #$39.99 (Is that a fair price?).
I will need to learn how to tell the difference between the jets.... How/what do I measure to determine what one I have?
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Post by dmartin95 on Jul 26, 2014 22:22:30 GMT -5
Hi Jerry, you posted while I was I posting....
Could you explain a little further, in depth? What is up-jetting?
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Post by dmartin95 on Jul 26, 2014 22:19:05 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure what the dealership has done. Monday I'm going to give them a call, I was just hoping to get some information about what all upgrading a 50cc engine entails. This Amore now has 260 miles on it. My wife is a first time rider and she has been taking it slow. However as she became more confident and got into the throttle, she noticed it wasn't even remotely keeping up with mine and she's supposed to have the upgraded moped. I rode it to try and figure out what was going on and it runs as if it's a 25cc moped . I hope it's something as simple as adjusting the jets but I'm thinking more along the lines of other components needed to upgraded along with the piston and jug. I'm really hoping that someone who's done these upgrades can chime in.
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Post by dmartin95 on Jul 26, 2014 14:27:52 GMT -5
Hi all, I'm new to the forum and was hoping I could find some advice about engine upgrades.
I recently purchased a Brand New Scooter for my wife that came with an upgrade from the dealership. I was told they had installed an 83cc upgrade kit. I was told the moped would be faster than a normal 49.5/50cc scooter, but it's not. It's not very fast at all. I am 160Lbs and this moped tops out at 32 MPH, level surface. Bogs down on hills to like 15~20MPH and has no more take off power than a low powered 50cc scooter.
When I purchased her scooter, I also purchased one for me. A Bintelli scorch 50cc. I can do 38MPH on level surface and run circles around her 83cc upgraded scooter.
So, I'm getting ready to contact the dealer, however I would like to be armed with a little bit of info.
I see these 83cc big bore kits on the net, but I also see upgraded heads, cams, carbs, exhaust, etc, etc,....
So, In short, here's my question. If you put an 83cc Big Bore kit on a stock 50cc moped, should you also change other parts such as the head, cam, carb and such?
I read a disclaimer on a scooter upgrade site that said to realize the upgrades, other components should be changed as well.
So what happens when you install a Big Bore kit on a 50cc without upgrading anything else? Should there be a gain or loss in performance?
(This moped is still under dealership warranty)
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Post by dmartin95 on Jul 26, 2014 14:07:44 GMT -5
Hi all, I came across the link to the forum from scootdawg as I was browsing for some info on a Moped (ZNEN/Motorino - Amore 50cc) I purchased recently. This was a purchase for my wife. I also purchased a Scooter (Bintelli - Scorch 50cc) for myself and my moped is running great.
My wife's moped has a few issues I'm trying to diagnose but I'll talk more about that in the appropriate section of this forum.
Anyhow, just thought I'd give a shout out from West Michigan.
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