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Post by makarov on Aug 23, 2013 22:11:15 GMT -5
Was he smoking wacky weed?
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CDI?
by: makarov - Aug 23, 2013 22:08:28 GMT -5
Post by makarov on Aug 23, 2013 22:08:28 GMT -5
Capacitive discharge ignition.
The performance cdi will just advance your ignition slightly.
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Post by makarov on Aug 23, 2013 22:04:06 GMT -5
Either your fuel filter is restricted or you have a vacuum leak in the hose to your fuel shut off valve.
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Post by makarov on Jun 11, 2013 22:27:52 GMT -5
another angle. Thanks to all for the advice and tech tips about my scoot. I will keep it and enjoy an occaisional ride. I had a vs800 intruder like this back in 1984 before I got my first harley. Loved it but peer pressure led me to buy a hog. This bike is 200lbs lighter than the harley and so much easier to do a power slide on blacktop. At 68 years old I should know better but I could not resist. The VS800 is a classic and getting rarer. If you get the chance grab one. They are a torque monster. Attachments:
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Post by makarov on Jun 11, 2013 22:15:17 GMT -5
I just rode this back from Beloit this afternoon. It has 9100 miles on it and is flawless as far as i can tell. It is a 1996 suzuki vs800 intruder. I had one of these before I bought my first harley. Loved it. 442 lbs----805cc vtwin. It is a torque monster for a small cruiser. I researched the specs. 0 to 60=5.8 seconds. 1/4 mile=13.6 seconds. Way more power than I need but it handles well and is fairly comfortable. I will prolly ad some mods to enhance the appearance. I paid $2600 and it included two $400 shoei helmets that I will sell as they are too small for me. The seller was up in years and no doubt at least a milionair as he had a big estate and a heard of lamas that he raised. beautiful animals. Attachments:
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Post by makarov on Jun 1, 2013 11:08:10 GMT -5
I WILL SECOND THAT. I had the same experience with them.
I ordered an exhaust for a 150 from there ebay site that was listed as new.
They sent me a used and rusted exhaust for a 50cc.
After a month of hassle I sent them pictures and they replied that it was not the one they sent me. I opened a case with ebay and eventually got a full refund plus shipping charges. They called me a liar and were very insulting in our several email exchanges.
Avoid them. They should not be in buisness.
The worst I have ever dealt with when ordering parts.
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Post by makarov on May 27, 2013 20:02:56 GMT -5
Mak you seem pretty sharp on the timing (with degrees ) if what I claim to be true would you buy one ? Let me understand where we could be at conflict , is it that I state that the timing changes from where it is at at idle , then at 3000rpm it advances from where it was at idle ? I would like to understand where your coming from . I did check it with a timing light you can't mark it when it is turning . I can tell you how it looked , the tdc line at idle was ahead of the light about 1/8 of an inch away in the rotating direction . When it was at 3000rpm (the light moved forward to just before the next line on the flywheel in the direction of rotation , so the spark was coming before tdc mark on the flywheel . When I let off and back to idle the spark comes later the magneto the light was behind the tdc mark . John John where I am coming from is that I think you or alley or any member should not discredit a different or other Color cdi without first testing it with an inductive timing light . Especially if you are trying to market a competitive product. When I called and asked about the timing advance of your product all you could tell me is that you had good feedback.. When I posted my factual results with an inductive timing light you were enlightened and used an inductive timing light and mirrored my results. No disrespect intended but I think that as a close knit group of scooter enthusiests we owe it to each other to be more precise and informative in our posts. Especially when you are trying to sell a product. No disrespect int ended but as you and I both know most new guys buying a scoot have not near the knowledge or experience that we do. I am A certified master mechanic and a journeyman electrician and what I post is valid information. We need to give these new guys the best info we can. Best regards. MAK |
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Post by makarov on May 27, 2013 18:10:21 GMT -5
does it retard enough to get a smooth start up ? My understanding of the adjustable cdi is it is fixed position (where you fix it) it will stay in the same spot until you readjust it . John I do not know but I hope to find out if I get one that is adjustable. I will post my results if that happens. The ideal would be one that you could actually adjust the timing curve from 1000 to 9000 rpms. Prolly not going to happen for less than $100 and a lot bigger box. |
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Post by makarov on May 27, 2013 12:39:14 GMT -5
Mak you seem pretty sharp on the timing (with degrees ) if what I claim to be true would you buy one ? Let me understand where we could be at conflict , is it that I state that the timing changes from where it is at at idle , then at 3000rpm it advances from where it was at idle ? I would like to understand where your coming from . I did check it with a timing light you can't mark it when it is turning . I can tell you how it looked , the tdc line at idle was ahead of the light about 1/8 of an inch away in the rotating direction . When it was at 3000rpm (the light moved forward to just before the next line on the flywheel in the direction of rotation , so the spark was coming before tdc mark on the flywheel . When I let off and back to idle the spark comes later the magneto the light was behind the tdc mark . John Thanks for the info John. That is exactly what I wanted to know. My orange one does the exact same thing. If it did not I would buy one of yours. As a follow up. The supplier of the defective adjustable one is going to test a few of his. I committed to repurchasing if he finds one that is truly adjustable. |
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Post by makarov on May 26, 2013 23:54:38 GMT -5
Alley
I am not trying to be disrespectful but if you bought an induction timing light and checked the advance curve of your cdi boxes I would be very interested in your results.
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Post by makarov on May 26, 2013 23:32:56 GMT -5
Yep and that is why I tried so many, The first one I tried is purple and the rest were all the orange ones. The NCY also orange cost me a lot more but it was the same and they all caused my starter clutch to kickback. My Trike has 200psi and the only one that would not kickback was the OEM one, but of course no timing advance. But the one I got now is a WIN WIN, not advanced at low rpms and advances at higher rpms. Alleyoop  I had the exact opposite results with the cdis I tested with a timing light. The only one that was not preset at 12° btdc was the orange one which would advance from 2° to 12° between 2000 and 3000 rpms. The rest were all preset at a fixed 12° btdc. Wich resulted in a faster idle and would cause the kickback that you described. |
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Post by makarov on May 25, 2013 21:32:59 GMT -5
John and Ally. We are on the same page. I am not putting down any suppliers cdi.
As I said. If you trust the Chinese supplier to deliver a quality cdi for $3 and be consistent I respect you decision. BUT. If you have the knowledge and the resources to actually check the timing curve I think you will be surprised at the results and differences regardless of the color
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Post by makarov on May 25, 2013 19:42:17 GMT -5
 ALLY. Like I stated Color means nothing . The next batch from China could be completely different. I have browsed a couple of Chinese sites offering adjustable cdi for as little as $3. Quality and facts mean nothing to these manufacturers. Regards. Mak.
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Post by makarov on May 25, 2013 19:17:47 GMT -5
P.S. I got a message today from the seller of the adjustable cdi. He thanked me for the results of my test and said that he had had other complaints about the cdi but mine was the first one with actual testing and facts. He said he must have got a bad batch from the supplier. He gave me a full refund and said he did not want the cdi returned. I thanked him.
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Post by makarov on May 25, 2013 19:10:02 GMT -5
:-[John. I measure the curcumfrance of the flywheel and then measure the distance that the advance is on the outside of the flywheel. As a simple example. Say that the curcunfrance is 20 inches and the advance is measured at 1 inch on the outside of the wheel. That would be 5% of 360 degees which is 18degrees. It can be done easily without a degree wheel. I am glad you have had good luck with your cdi.
Before I decided to accurately measure the advance of the many cdi that I have tried. I was falsley impressed with the performance of a couple. Wishful thinking on my part. One big factor on judging the performance of these carbureted 150s is jetting in regards to temp and humidity vs main and pilot jet size. The biggest factor is the wind speed and direction. Top speed and power is greatly affected by these factors which can change from day to day. I am sure you are aware of this and hope my factual post did not offend you. Best regards Mak
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