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Post by wutzthedeal on Jun 1, 2013 19:06:19 GMT -5
And finally, a few general questions about this setup. First, I have graphite lube, but Dr. Pulley sliders claim to be self-lubing. Use or not? And of all these parts, which ones would you grease? Would you use the graphite lube on more than just the rollers/sliders? I have some white lithium grease but I'm afraid to get that anywhere near the variator/clutch/belt. And what is it about my setup that would cause chewing up belts relatively quickly and damaging sliders? (PS Since I know somebody will mention it, yes I have a new gasket coming, too. What do you use to stick that on with, if anything? Like some kind of spray adhesive?).
THANK YOU for any help.
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jun 1, 2013 19:03:12 GMT -5
 Just a close up of the above. |
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jun 1, 2013 19:01:06 GMT -5
 For this, obviously it's starting to rust. First, is it missing any parts except the bendix sleeve? Second, would you grease any part of this or just use CorrosionX, or neither? |
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jun 1, 2013 18:58:19 GMT -5
 Next up, the above. Is there anything you see wrong? Am I missing anything that should be here that is not in the previous photo's parts? I feel like I MUST have had something wrong for my sliders to get messed up and for it to chew through two belts already (last one being a Gates that lasted about 3k miles). That's why I got the new variator; hoping it was that. |
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jun 1, 2013 18:54:36 GMT -5
 These are the parts I have. Only I'm replacing the rollers with sliders. My old Dr. P sliders were torn up; what would cause that? Ok, this parts list is one that I'm asking, based on the next few images, to see if it is complete, except for a missing washer and bendix sleeve. |
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jun 1, 2013 11:48:10 GMT -5
Hey guys; this is kind of a technical question about the forum.
I have four pictures that I plan on loading here to ask anybody who may know what is missing from my variator area besides a washer and bendix bushing, and the kick-start area/cover and a few odds and ends about re-assembly.
First, is it best for the forum if I upload the pics to some 3rd party server and then just link here? Or can I just upload them here and that's fine?
Second, if you were me, would you post all four pics separately or just combine them into one pic in photoshop (still under 1MB of course)?
And finally, would it be better in general to include all of the questions in one post which, I think, can scare people away because it looks too much like work, or is it best to ask each question separately?
Thank you.
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jun 1, 2013 8:36:00 GMT -5
Ok thank you geh3333. Glad I didn't make that mistake!  |
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Post by wutzthedeal on May 31, 2013 21:00:58 GMT -5
Would this be the little bugger? It looks a little thick but maybe my broken one had just worn thin. Attachments:
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Post by wutzthedeal on May 31, 2013 20:49:27 GMT -5
Thank you guys. Alleyooop, you nailed it again. So those parts you see in the pic in my original post, those are correct except for the missing washer in the diagram that goes on just before the nut that holds the variator on? I'm not missing anything? (Is there any washer that goes on FIRST before any part of the variator gets put back on?) I gotta order the bendix sleeve.
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Post by wutzthedeal on May 31, 2013 17:26:32 GMT -5
I went to install a new variator and belt today, and everything went good at first but I knew it wouldn't last. The reason is that there was some spacer or collar that came out that was broken into three pieces, and in the included diagram, it doesn't show it. It was big enough to go around that thickest part toward the inside of the variator assembly area, as if to be put on first to be used as a spacer. It is also about 3/4 inch long; roughly the size of a socket, only much skinnier. This is not that main, thick sleeve that that belt touches, but something else. I also have a washer that I don't know where it goes. What I have right now is the setup shown here, and it's not right. It also would fit around the little sprocket thing above the variator, so I'm a bit confused. For one thing, when I went riding down the road, I made it about 3/4 mile and it sounded like the whole thing flew apart; there is a grinding noise. It didn't fly apart, but it's not right. 2nd clue: I believe the belt should be absolutely flush what that collar that the belt makes contact with before you put the final plate on; in my case, the belt was about 1/16th of an inch wider. Therefore, when you put the final variator plate on, it bends a little bit toward the rear of the scooter, where it's not contacting the belt. I know that's not right. I know I'm missing at least one part, probably two. Something should make that barrel stick out a little further so the belt lines up flush with it, width-wise. It's hard when the manual doesn't show the parts and I pulled the fragments of one part out of there (and don't really know where the washer goes because it's also not listed as you can see in this manual). Thank you for any help my friends. The Frawg is pinned to the board and fully cut open, and I can't stand not riding. It drives me batty! Attachments:
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Post by wutzthedeal on May 23, 2013 3:09:41 GMT -5
Wutz, Is the belt down in the Variator or HIGH on the Variator and DOWN in the Clutch pulley? If the Variator is not opening all the way and staying a little closed it would cause that situation LIKE a car starting in 4 gear. It would be very slow at take off until the rpms came up enough to match the ratio that the belt was sitting at. Alleyoop Ok THAT is exactly what it is doing; just like a car starting in a high gear. However, I didn't look at the belt with the cover off while revving. I'll bet that one of those 3 plastic guides missing on my variator is causing it to stick closed--would that be a logical cause? And w/o a replacement guide at this time, would a little grease do the trick? |
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Post by wutzthedeal on May 22, 2013 16:57:32 GMT -5
I just took the cover off and the belt is on its last leg. It may last another month. I don't know for sure if that's what's causing this but could it? It has lost some of its width.
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Post by wutzthedeal on May 22, 2013 14:10:55 GMT -5
Alleyoop, it doesn't make a noise except for the sound of something running at very low rpm; the firing slows down so low that it's almost like a subdued, slow machine gun. I had this problem before but wrecked and it went away. Now it's back. But I responds fine on the center stand with the rear wheel off of the ground so it is resistance related. Last time, it did it for about one week straight for about 2 startups per day which is all I was running it (in other words, it did it every time). This time has been about four consecutive days. I would think the enricher would cut fuel weather on or off the rear stand, right?
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Post by wutzthedeal on May 21, 2013 20:40:51 GMT -5
If you give your scoot gas and it doesn't rev up, but it does rev up quickly and the back tire spins when it's on the stand, what is that? Right now, if I"m riding, on take-off I have to go like 2mph for 50-100 feet, then it starts picking up rpm and speed quickly. Could this be caused by a missing variator sliding guide (the plastic, U or V shaped pieces that allow the variator plate to slide in and out) or are we looking at belt or transmission or something else?
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Post by wutzthedeal on Apr 17, 2013 20:22:24 GMT -5
Without bringing up any names or specific threads (the questionable content of that thread is deleted anyway so you won't find it), I think that it should be stated that you cannot tell the truth about your experiences with any group of people that has led you to a conclusion about that group that might offend somebody. Because this is rather obscure in its applicability, I'll list some examples of things that should be akin to what I got warned about. This is just so you'll have an idea of what you may be warned about.
Example one: you were married to a local city council member. You found out by observing him/her and other members, both on-duty and off, that they had a propensity toward payoffs or other dishonorable behavior. As your spouse's career grew, you began witnessing the behavior not just in the local council, but you found the same type and rate of "offenses" region and nation-wide. About 7 out of 10 that you had witnessed had some history of using their position for personal gain. All that's fine. What you cannot say at this forum, then, is that "In my experience, city council members are likely to be corrupt." That's not allowed. After all, it may chase off a member that belongs to a city council (who is or is not corrupt; we can't know here).
Example two: you are a teacher. You've worked in 4 different states of the U.S. due to your military spouse who gets sent here and there at regular intervals. In three of the four states you taught in, you witnessed the bulk of the teachers participating in "cheat parties," where they would change the answers for students in order to meet the requirements put forth by the DoE as standardized in SOLs. You cannot, then, come to this forum and say, "Most teachers I've known have cheated to pass SOLs. I hate teachers who cheat the system. They are cheating our innocent kids when they do it." That cannot be allowed, because you are not allowed to "hate" anything on this forum that might offend somebody.
Well, I believe I have that accurate. I invite moderators or administrators to make this even more clear, because this forum will be the first forum I ever got a warning from for speaking the truth because it might offend somebody. Being muzzled isn't something I deal well with and my choices regarding this forum in the future will reflect that, but it's only fair that you know ahead of time that you must not share your dislike for anything if that dislike might offend others. If the administrators are not biased, that will include all things and not just some. Not just teachers and council members, for example, but priests, police officers, or contest judges. You must not dislike any in public in this forum, because it might "chase" a member off.
Thanks for reading, and happy to provide the warning.
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