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by: dollartwentyfive - Dec 30, 2016 10:38:33 GMT -5
Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 30, 2016 10:38:33 GMT -5
do you refer to your step through twist and go scooter as "my bike"?
i remember needing some cooling help, and i rode out to some very rural junkyard on my 250. it was about a mile down a gravel rode, and i motored in there and ask them about some heater cores, i needed them for "my bike" they started asking questions so they could get a picture of what i had. it's a chinese 250 i told them. let's take a look they said. they looked it over and said that ain't a bike, it's a moped. but they did say it sounded pretty good coming up the road. i never got what i wanted.
anyway, the thread is about your love for your "scoot", er moped.
my baby, out back rusting it's guts out. i miss my chinese 250 so bad it hurts.
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Post by ricardoguitars on Dec 30, 2016 11:33:59 GMT -5
Scooters are not mopeds, that term is used for motorized pedaling vehicles (hence the name), like bicycles, scooters don't have pedals.
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by: shrimpsauce - Dec 30, 2016 11:59:30 GMT -5
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Post by shrimpsauce on Dec 30, 2016 11:59:30 GMT -5
I call mine a scooter, though I don't think you're wrong to call it a bike. I think people just tend to picture a traditional motorcycle or dirt bike if you say "bike."
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by: w650 - Dec 30, 2016 14:22:40 GMT -5
Post by w650 on Dec 30, 2016 14:22:40 GMT -5
It varies. I will refer to my scooters as "The black scooter" or "The blue scooter" for my wife or as a "bike" depending on my mood. I never say "Moped" for any of them.
Sorry to hear the scooter is disabled. Better days are coming.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Dec 30, 2016 22:35:06 GMT -5
Dollartwentyfi,
Have a bone for bringing up an interesting subject!
I'm an old-school biker from more than a half-century ago... We usually referred to our Hogs as "bikes", but often tongue-in-cheek called them our "scooters"...
Most definitely, a scooter IS a bike... But I must admit to feeling like I'm "pushing the envelope" calling my step-through 250 a bike... I usually just call her a "scooter" or affectionately, "the Mouse". But yeah, a SCOOTER is a bike!
Ricardoguitars is absolutely right about scooters not being "mopeds". But all around the world, somehow, our beloved scooters have been saddled with that irritating moniker.
I absolutely HATE the term "moped". When I was a little nipper in the fifties, "mopeds" were popular. From the venerable "Whizzer" to the singularly ugly European mopeds like the front-wheel-drive "Solex", they were cheap, slow, and often didn't require licenses... Cool for kids on a budget and too young for a driver's license. And of course, they were REALLY "bikes"... LOL! "Moped" is a European term from way back. We hated that name even 50 years ago... LOL! When we were kids, riding a Whizzer or any other motorized bike with pedals, we called them "motorbikes". Ah... MUCH better name for an American ride!
I'll call my aging Kymco a "bike". Or a "scoot". Or a "scooter". Or "Minnie" or "the Mouse" but NEVER, EVER will I call it a "moped". Even if the rest of the world does... LOLOLOL!
If it ain't got pedals, it ain't a moped. Period.
Now once in a great while, I used to call my first Chinese 150 things NOT appropriate for a family site... HeHeHe...
Whatever you call your ride, ride safe!
Leo in Texas
PS: Since you really are wanting another Chinese 250, you might start looking around. This time of year there may be SUPER-affordable deals on all sorts of "bikes" including just what you want. Just an idea...
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by: onewheeldrive - Dec 31, 2016 1:35:46 GMT -5
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Post by onewheeldrive on Dec 31, 2016 1:35:46 GMT -5
I, and a couple coworkers, like to call my scoot a Harley--- because it's so ridiculous. Fun 'n games.
I'll even play the part, too. "Yeah the whole world is gonna hear me coming down the road".... "they're gonna be breaking their necks when they see me ride by...." ; )
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by: cyborg55 - Dec 31, 2016 9:18:46 GMT -5
Post by cyborg55 on Dec 31, 2016 9:18:46 GMT -5
If it ain't got pedals it ain't a moped,,,scooters are a bike,,,smaller displacement than traditional motorcycles but still a bike,,,or motorcycle,,,that's why you need a motorcycle endorsement on your drivers license to legally ride them on the road,,,it's all attitude and prejudice on the part of the people that spout that sh1t,,,,,and usually the ones that never rode in their lives,,,being a life long rider of all sizes and genre of bikes and not being brand specific or loyal it never ceases to amaze me the depth of ignorance people project on stuff they know nothing about,,it used to bother me but now in my advanced state of decay I just let it go ,,I dig all forms of two wheeled (and three wheeled ) transportation,, I even like bicycles with clip on engines and have one or two of those engines in the box in my garage waiting to go into frame,,,
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by: SylvreKat - Dec 31, 2016 10:16:40 GMT -5
Post by SylvreKat on Dec 31, 2016 10:16:40 GMT -5
My younger niece (who was probably about 6 or 7 at the time) made the proclamation regarding my scoot, "Others may call it a scooter; *I* shall call it a motorcycle." Yeah, you and the state of Kansas, dearheart.
As for moped, you guys are right. That's not what they are. Like calling a bicycle a trike. I haven't heard it yet, but I would nicely correct anyone saying it. Wouldn't bother me all that much, just isn't correct (which would bother the Grammar Nazi in me)
>'Kat
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by: rockynv - Dec 31, 2016 10:53:14 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Dec 31, 2016 10:53:14 GMT -5
According to DOT my Lance Vintage was classified a 150cc Highway Motorcycle and my Aprilia Sport City 250 is a 250cc Highway Motorcycle. Cruiser, Sport Bike, Dirt Bike or Scooter are all just a subclass of Motorcycle.
"The Bike" or "The Aprilia" is how I refer to the Sport City while my 1978 124 Spider is "The Spider" or "The Fiat".
After one jaunt on the Interstate in the far left lane as a pillion those that are prone to call "The Aprilia" a Moped are singing a different tune. Some refer to it as "Insane!"
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by: wheelbender6 - Dec 31, 2016 13:50:45 GMT -5
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Post by wheelbender6 on Dec 31, 2016 13:50:45 GMT -5
I saw plenty of mopeds in the 70s that were started by pedaling. To me, if it doesn't require a pedal start, it's not a moped.
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by: dollartwentyfive - Dec 31, 2016 18:33:16 GMT -5
Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 31, 2016 18:33:16 GMT -5
i always thought a "moped" was the one with the motor AND pedals.
i remember getting the VIN checked when i first got it. the officer said "you want a VIN check on your little moped there?". i was thinking, 350 pounds and a 63 inch wheelbase can hardly be called little. this thing was twice the size of my 50cc.
i am so glad i got some first hand experience with these types of vehicles. i'm actually amazed we don't see more of them here in the US.
i would get on mine and ride it just for the thrill and excitement of it.
i will get another one.
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by: SylvreKat - Jan 1, 2017 14:54:32 GMT -5
Post by SylvreKat on Jan 1, 2017 14:54:32 GMT -5
i remember getting the VIN checked when i first got it. the officer said "you want a VIN check on your little moped there?". i was thinking, 350 pounds and a 63 inch wheelbase can hardly be called little. this thing was twice the size of my 50cc. Size is all relative. I thought mine was decently big. Until I took the Advanced Rider class. Everyone else had 1000cc+++ highway cruisers. Poor Peej looked like a kid's toy parked next to them. On the other hand, every one of those guys treated me like gold. I think they got a kick out of little me on little Peej riding with big all of them. >'Kat
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by: oldchopperguy - Jan 1, 2017 21:01:59 GMT -5
Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 1, 2017 21:01:59 GMT -5
Well, boyz & gurlz... All this moped talk got me interested in these little 50cc or so wonders. I've never been too interested in the 50's because I'm just too heavy for 3 or 4hp. That being said, these pedal-starter REAL "mopeds" today have a BIG following! And, the riders are showing AMAZING talents in making them LOOK good and GO fast...
I'm not sure about availability of the Euro-style mopeds in the USA. One might have to do some searching... but they do have a lot of appeal for the small-displacement enthusiast!
Here are some pix I found of real, genuine mopeds WITH pedals AND class... Definitely something for the 50cc enthusiasts to think about when considering a mild (or wild) custom that turns heads and doesn't cost $10-grand to build... And is NOT a scooter. Different, but pretty sweet!Enjoy! I think we scooter-jockeys often think of 50cc rides as scooters... usually smaller versions of 150's. These "mopeds" opened my eyes to a completely different genre of "bikes". These rides have appeal that might well interest the big-bike rider who enjoys the "bobber" or "café racer" style of bike, but in a small, lightweight version which is very affordable to buy, or build and maintain. For cruising the neighborhood, or just plain fun transportation, how could you beat one of these? They just make this old biker smile!Ride safe!Leo in Texas
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by: rockynv - Jan 1, 2017 22:03:30 GMT -5
Post by rockynv on Jan 1, 2017 22:03:30 GMT -5
My first bike was a Motobecane Mobyette which is what the orange chopper was based on. The variator and clutch were combined on the engine and it had a fixed driven pulley so the engine was on a hinge with a big spring to adjust the belt as it went through its drive ratios. That is why the muffler was the shorty wrapped around from the exhaust port to the underside of the engine as it had to pivot with the engine and could not be bolted to the frame. When the variator was opened the muffler pointed down at an angle while when closed during high speed operation it was at an upward angle. The exhaust tip pointed off to the side possibly toward the chain but its been over 45 years so....
They were fun little light bikes but highly restricted when they got to Massachusetts with its 25 mph speed restriction for mopeds.
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by: mrsunsett - Jan 2, 2017 1:43:57 GMT -5
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Post by mrsunsett on Jan 2, 2017 1:43:57 GMT -5
I always call it my bike... most people call it bikes in short down gere in south florida... at least my large group of friends who ride scooters.
We also have a large group (myself included) of people who ride customized bicycles with motors on them (i used to ride mine alot before i got a scooter/before i had a car) so bike is a term thats short and easy, its like people calling their Toyota or Mercedes their "ride" its essentially a shorthand or a easy/quick way of saying it.
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