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Post by florida on Jun 12, 2015 11:47:59 GMT -5
Everytime i fill up at the gas station i end up spraying gas all over because of a piece of metal in the hole. Ithe gas station nozzle doesnt go far enough into the hole to prevent gas from spraying all over. I am losing 4 tbs every time i fill. The remedy would be to use a cutting tool and remove this 1/2 inch wide by 1 1/2 inch strip about 2 inches deep inside the gas tank neck.
I am wary of doing this because of the potential of metal shavings and explosions.
Any adviice or experience guys?
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Post by JoeyBee on Jun 12, 2015 11:55:05 GMT -5
If you have a fuel filter it's no big deal. Use a cutting tool a take the piece of metal out b
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Post by keikara on Jun 12, 2015 11:59:43 GMT -5
If you use tin snips should have less of a chance of any sparks. Using a cutting wheel of any sort would produce sparks and could have an explosion. And after cutting with the tin snips if there is any of the tab still in the filler neck just push it down to where its out of the way.
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Post by florida on Jun 12, 2015 12:16:55 GMT -5
Ok, im heading out to the garage right now.
Thx for the tips guys!
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Post by murkyapricot on Jun 12, 2015 12:47:04 GMT -5
I have been too lazy to attempt modifying mine, instead I have a mental list of which pumps at which stations pump slow enough lol anyone know the reason there is that guard in the tank anyway?
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Post by florida on Jun 12, 2015 12:47:09 GMT -5
Ok, job done. twisted ithe stopper with needle nose pliers and cut it with aviation snips. The cutbends were pushed down and outta the way.
Thx guys. I feel like we mimicked the 1980' hit tv show A Team
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Post by rcq92130 on Jun 12, 2015 12:47:55 GMT -5
Ok, im heading out to the garage right now. Thx for the tips guys! Do NOT use a power tool ar anything else that would leave filings. Just take some needle nose pliers and start on one side - bending until it snaps, then the other side. The China steel is very, very soft and isn't a problem to egt to snap. Best mod you can make for your scooter.
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Post by chromestarhustler on Jun 12, 2015 13:31:21 GMT -5
i took some sheet metal snips, cut it in the middle and took a screw driver and bent it down. works well enough.
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Post by keikara on Jun 12, 2015 15:00:19 GMT -5
I have been too lazy to attempt modifying mine, instead I have a mental list of which pumps at which stations pump slow enough lol anyone know the reason there is that guard in the tank anyway? I would say the only reason I can tell that it is in there is so you know where to stop so you do not overfill your tank. At least that is what I use it for. I have notices as long as I put the nozzle into the tank and put it over to the side of the fill neck, have not had a problem with any splashing, and I only fill until gas is just above it.
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 12, 2015 15:16:53 GMT -5
There is enough room on mine to point the pump on an angle and pump the gas around that piece of metal. But I know what you mean . sometimes you end up hitting the darn thing, lol
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Post by SylvreKat on Jun 12, 2015 22:06:35 GMT -5
I would say the only reason I can tell that it is in there is so you know where to stop so you do not overfill your tank. Uh, the pump doesn't just click off like normal? That seems weird. I mean, I take off my scoot's gas cap, stick in the tank nozzle, set it to low and let it go 'til it clicks off on its own. Now my old Taurus, I would guess roughly how much gas he needed (never accurate 'cause he lied low), then start listening ear at the nozzle for when the pitch of the pumping started going higher. Then I'd click off and top him off. Otherwise when it shut off, he'd vomit gas down his side and sometimes all over the ground. He really was a naughty car (probably a big reason why I loved him so much--the naughty, not the gas). So why doesn't your tank click the nozzle, and mine (THANKFULLY!!) does? >'Kat
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 12, 2015 22:22:59 GMT -5
I would say the only reason I can tell that it is in there is so you know where to stop so you do not overfill your tank. Uh, the pump doesn't just click off like normal? That seems weird. I mean, I take off my scoot's gas cap, stick in the tank nozzle, set it to low and let it go 'til it clicks off on its own. Now my old Taurus, I would guess roughly how much gas he needed (never accurate 'cause he lied low), then start listening ear at the nozzle for when the pitch of the pumping started going higher. Then I'd click off and top him off. Otherwise when it shut off, he'd vomit gas down his side and sometimes all over the ground. He really was a naughty car (probably a big reason why I loved him so much--the naughty, not the gas). So why doesn't your tank click the nozzle, and mine (THANKFULLY!!) does? >'Kat The problem is the metal bracket in the center of the hole. If you point the pump nozzle right at it , the gas sprays back out of the tank. But all you should have to do is point the nozzle to either side of the bracket.
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Post by murkyapricot on Jun 12, 2015 23:54:37 GMT -5
Uh, the pump doesn't just click off like normal? That seems weird. I mean, I take off my scoot's gas cap, stick in the tank nozzle, set it to low and let it go 'til it clicks off on its own. Now my old Taurus, I would guess roughly how much gas he needed (never accurate 'cause he lied low), then start listening ear at the nozzle for when the pitch of the pumping started going higher. Then I'd click off and top him off. Otherwise when it shut off, he'd vomit gas down his side and sometimes all over the ground. He really was a naughty car (probably a big reason why I loved him so much--the naughty, not the gas). So why doesn't your tank click the nozzle, and mine (THANKFULLY!!) does? >'Kat The problem is the metal bracket in the center of the hole. If you point the pump nozzle right at it , the gas sprays back out of the tank. But all you should have to do is point the nozzle to either side of the bracket. doesn't work for me the majority of the stations around here the slowest setting for pumping sprays it too hard off the sides and splashes back out too
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 12, 2015 23:59:14 GMT -5
The problem is the metal bracket in the center of the hole. If you point the pump nozzle right at it , the gas sprays back out of the tank. But all you should have to do is point the nozzle to either side of the bracket. doesn't work for me the majority of the stations around here the slowest setting for pumping sprays it too hard off the sides and splashes back out too I can just about fit the nozzle between the bracket and the opening, it sprays hard , but makes it past the bracket. Maybe our tanks are a little different ?
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Post by florida on Jun 14, 2015 23:34:27 GMT -5
Ok ok, Just so theres no misinformation in my thread DO NOT at any time use a tool to strike the gas tanks filler stopper ( hand tool or powered device) in an attempt to modify a scooters gas tank!
I havent driven a car in years. I did at one point more than a decade ago go through a very good Tractor Trailer school in Upstate Ny and drove a big rig for a living! Rigs use "fuel" and carry a few hundred gallons.
I know that it takes something with a higher "flash point" like kerosene to act as an accelerant when one desires to ignite Diesal fuel. A lit cigarette wont work where a common road flare will.
This has been fun talking bout' fire, but can someone verify that American Gas Station gas pumps have a "shut-off" or over-fill prevention device?
I cant post a Web link from my phone. Can someone do that? Post a link to explain gas pump overfill technology in Merica? I mean, offer this option to possible discriminating scooter mechanics as they might desire this and NOT my modification. Thanks!
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