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Post by SylvreKat on Jun 15, 2015 6:56:39 GMT -5
florida, if by "shut-off or over-fill prevention device" you mean that the pump clicks off when the tank is pretty much full, then yes they do. At least every pump I've ever used does. Open my lid, put in the nozzle, set to low so I get more gas less oxygen, wait for the click. And even more, I'll top off (had to with the old wagon), the pump gets increasing unwilling to continue pumping the fuller the tank gets. If that's not what you meant, then I dunno.  >'Kat |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 15, 2015 9:33:53 GMT -5
Ok ok, Just so theres no misinformation in my thread DO NOT at any time use a tool to strike the gas tanks filler stopper ( hand tool or powered device) in an attempt to modify a scooters gas tank! I havent driven a car in years. I did at one point more than a decade ago go through a very good Tractor Trailer school in Upstate Ny and drove a big rig for a living! Rigs use "fuel" and carry a few hundred gallons. I know that it takes something with a higher "flash point" like kerosene to act as an accelerant when one desires to ignite Diesal fuel. A lit cigarette wont work where a common road flare will. This has been fun talking bout' fire, but can someone verify that American Gas Station gas pumps have a "shut-off" or over-fill prevention device? I cant post a Web link from my phone. Can someone do that? Post a link to explain gas pump overfill technology in Merica? I mean, offer this option to possible discriminating scooter mechanics as they might desire this and NOT my modification. Thanks! Yes , all the pumps I've ever used have had the automatic shutoff . I had the pump spray so hard that the mixture of air and gas made the gas raise so quick that it would run out of the tank. The shuttoff device does not work fast enough when that happens. When it comes to the metal bracket inside the tank " the one you cut off " , I'm not sure why its there. I guess it could be for a fill point. Since the cap sits down inside the tank a bit , you would have to be careful how high you fill the tank . if you fill it too full , the cal will overflow the gas as you put it back on. The reason you cut the bracket out , was because gas would hit the bracket as you were pumping and spray back out at you right ? |
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Post by lain on Jun 15, 2015 9:37:21 GMT -5
The pumps should turn off when the end of the nozzle become submerged. If you have the gas filler guard you will obviously be unable to put the nozzle into the hole because the guard stops it right at the opening, and therefor the pumps automatic shutoff may not be effective or work at all.
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Post by cyborg on Jun 15, 2015 9:47:44 GMT -5
i checked mine with a lighter,,,no more tank,,no more problem,,,no more eyebrows either,,,,  ,,,,my vespa had a plastic insert,,,what a pain in the left nut,,,it was hard to get out but it was worth the effort |
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Post by rcq92130 on Jun 15, 2015 9:58:36 GMT -5
i checked mine with a lighter,,,no more tank,,no more problem,,,no more eyebrows either,,,, ,,,,my vespa had a plastic insert,,,what a pain in the left nut,,,it was hard to get out but it was worth the effort PLASTIC ?? Wow. Removing that cross strap inside the filler is the single best mod I've done. Before, had to put gas in as slow as possible - trickling from the nozzle, and still it would at times splash. Now - stick the nozzle in, set it on "max", a few seconds later it shuts off. Then a few more squirts to top it off and outta there. Just don't cause a spark! Best: use needle nose pliers to twist it repeatedly till it pops off. ChinaSteel - not exactly the strongest stuff on the planet. |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 15, 2015 10:00:27 GMT -5
The pumps should turn off when the end of the nozzle become submerged. If you have the gas filler guard you will obviously be unable to put the nozzle into the hole because the guard stops it right at the opening, and therefor the pumps automatic shutoff may not be effective or work at all. Mine sits about 2 to 2.5 inches down into the hole . |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 15, 2015 10:01:40 GMT -5
i checked mine with a lighter,,,no more tank,,no more problem,,,no more eyebrows either,,,, ,,,,my vespa had a plastic insert,,,what a pain in the left nut,,,it was hard to get out but it was worth the effort PLASTIC ?? Wow. Removing that cross strap inside the filler is the single best mod I've done. Before, had to put gas in as slow as possible - trickling from the nozzle, and still it would at times splash. Now - stick the nozzle in, set it on "max", a few seconds later it shuts off. Then a few more squirts to top it off and outta there. Just don't cause a spark! Best: use needle nose pliers to twist it repeatedly till it pops off. ChinaSteel - not exactly the strongest stuff on the planet. You couldn't spray to the side of the bracket ? |
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Post by JoeyBee on Jun 15, 2015 10:35:26 GMT -5
Just cut the metal tab and be done with it.  |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 15, 2015 11:26:37 GMT -5
Just cut the metal tab and be done with it. I have no need cut mine . I actually think its a good idea keeping it , considering many of us need to remove the gas cap to remove the underseat compartment , so we can work on our scoots. I always put the cap back on after removing the compartment , but on ocassion I have forgot to. It would be terrible to drop something somewhat big into the tank while your working on the scoot. Think about it , imagine I'm working on my scoot and I leave the gas cap off . I then reach into my pocket to grab my mind altering prescription drugs and NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! right into the gas tank . now if the bracket was there my unlabeled prescription bottle would be safe an sound right at the top of the tank. But now I can't finish working on her because withdraw has begun to set in !! This whole catastrophe could have been diverted if I had just kept the darn bracket !! That's why I'll take this time to announce that Im selling a replacement bracket for all who read this and had chills run through their bodies. No need to spend years trying to reattach the old cut bracket with ductape and bubblegum ! Just buy my new gas tank hole bracket . this bracket is made of flint so as you install it there is no need to remove the gasoline !! Just use the metal striker " I mean " file , to file the bracket to size ! Just hold the new bracket into place and file it down to size. No need for any glues , tape or welding . this bracket has its own bracket !! And it sets between the cap and the tank !! So hurry while supplies last . so far I have 1 in my inventory so please hurry ! The first 500 callers will receive an empty unlabeled prescription bottle !! For only 19.99 plus shipping and handling. The bracket will be an extra 19.99 plus shipping and handling . so please hurry ! Lol , please dont take seriously . |
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Post by rcq92130 on Jun 15, 2015 11:51:26 GMT -5
FUNNY !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 15, 2015 11:58:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the order !! I'll have it in the mail 2moro ! |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 15, 2015 12:04:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the order !! I'll have it in the mail 2moro ! You sent $65 instead of $45 . does that mean you want 2 unlabeled , empty prescription bottles ? I can label them if you want . I have a decent printer. I can even fill them , but I have to wait for another power outage . I also need to pic up a new ski mask . so it may take a few days . |
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Post by florida on Jun 15, 2015 18:39:13 GMT -5
Just cut the metal tab and be done with it. I have no need cut mine . I actually think its a good idea keeping it , considering many of us need to remove the gas cap to remove the underseat compartment , so we can work on our scoots. I always put the cap back on after removing the compartment , but on ocassion I have forgot to. It would be terrible to drop something somewhat big into the tank while your working on the scoot. Think about it , imagine I'm working on my scoot and I leave the gas cap off . I then reach into my pocket to grab my mind altering prescription drugs and NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! right into the gas tank . now if the bracket was there my unlabeled prescription bottle would be safe an sound right at the top of the tank. But now I can't finish working on her because withdraw has begun to set in !! This whole catastrophe could have been diverted if I had just kept the darn bracket !! That's why I'll take this time to announce that Im selling a replacement bracket for all who read this and had chills run through their bodies. No need to spend years trying to reattach the old cut bracket with ductape and bubblegum ! Just buy my new gas tank hole bracket . this bracket is made of flint so as you install it there is no need to remove the gasoline !! Just use the metal striker " I mean " file , to file the bracket to size ! Just hold the new bracket into place and file it down to size. No need for any glues , tape or welding . this bracket has its own bracket !! And it sets between the cap and the tank !! So hurry while supplies last . so far I have 1 in my inventory so please hurry ! The first 500 callers will receive an empty unlabeled prescription bottle !! For only 19.99 plus shipping and handling. The bracket will be an extra 19.99 plus shipping and handling . so please hurry ! Lol , please dont take seriously . Your're not that much different from 92% of the contributing persons on this forum! I imagine you browse porn a good portion of the day and have a Netflix subscription too. Take my word, you've neither strayed from the pack or have been witnessed by those who matter with any hesitation in your step. Thx for coloring with-in the lines and all. My brain told me that an enthusiast would need there gas tank intact |
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Post by rcq92130 on Jun 15, 2015 18:45:00 GMT -5
I have no need cut mine . I actually think its a good idea keeping it , considering many of us need to remove the gas cap to remove the underseat compartment , so we can work on our scoots. I always put the cap back on after removing the compartment , but on ocassion I have forgot to. It would be terrible to drop something somewhat big into the tank while your working on the scoot. Think about it , imagine I'm working on my scoot and I leave the gas cap off . I then reach into my pocket to grab my mind altering prescription drugs and NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! right into the gas tank . now if the bracket was there my unlabeled prescription bottle would be safe an sound right at the top of the tank. But now I can't finish working on her because withdraw has begun to set in !! This whole catastrophe could have been diverted if I had just kept the darn bracket !! That's why I'll take this time to announce that Im selling a replacement bracket for all who read this and had chills run through their bodies. No need to spend years trying to reattach the old cut bracket with ductape and bubblegum ! Just buy my new gas tank hole bracket . this bracket is made of flint so as you install it there is no need to remove the gasoline !! Just use the metal striker " I mean " file , to file the bracket to size ! Just hold the new bracket into place and file it down to size. No need for any glues , tape or welding . this bracket has its own bracket !! And it sets between the cap and the tank !! So hurry while supplies last . so far I have 1 in my inventory so please hurry ! The first 500 callers will receive an empty unlabeled prescription bottle !! For only 19.99 plus shipping and handling. The bracket will be an extra 19.99 plus shipping and handling . so please hurry ! Lol , please dont take seriously . Your're not that much different from 92% of the contributing persons on this forum! I imagine you browse porn a good portion of the day and have a Netflix subscription too. Take my word, you've neither strayed from the pack or have been witnessed by those who matter with any hesitation in your step. Thx for coloring with-in the lines and all. My brain told me that an enthusiast would need there gas tank intact Sorry you were too slow to catch it, but that was satire (I know the guy). Better luck ....... |
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 15, 2015 19:15:44 GMT -5
Sorry, I just got back on , lol .
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