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Post by alleyoop on Jul 31, 2014 16:09:44 GMT -5
Well you probably can use JB weld it comes in two small tubes that you mix. You can find it at your hardware store or auto parts store. But for the price of it you can buy a new intake manifold.
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Post by blarboose on Jul 31, 2014 17:33:37 GMT -5
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Post by blarboose on Jul 31, 2014 19:58:35 GMT -5
Well you probably can use JB weld it comes in two small tubes that you mix. You can find it at your hardware store or auto parts store. But for the price of it you can buy a new intake manifold. UPDATE: I went out and got some JB weld, plus JB kwiksteel. The kwiksteel is like a putty that you knead to mix up and then it hardens. I figure Ill use the putty to fill the cracks, and then once that is dried/cured, Ill use the JB weld to cover it up and seal it on both sides.
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 31, 2014 20:09:54 GMT -5
There you go JB weld is great stuff you can even drill it. Alleyoop
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Post by blarboose on Jul 31, 2014 21:06:00 GMT -5
The putty should be cured now so Im gonna go ahead and apply the epoxy.
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Post by blarboose on Aug 1, 2014 13:00:29 GMT -5
There you go JB weld is great stuff you can even drill it. Alleyoop Quick question for you; in your experience with JB weld, how long do you need to let it cure for? The package says it cures in 15 to 24 hours, so Im not even going to be TOUCHING it until its been 24 hours. But in your experience, does letting it cure for longer before installing the part or messing with it help at all? or would I just be wasting my time by letting it go for longer than 24 hours?
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Post by alleyoop on Aug 1, 2014 13:05:14 GMT -5
It will take less than 24 hours because it is not a big thick piece so it will harden and be ready over night. Alleyoop
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Post by blarboose on Aug 2, 2014 17:12:58 GMT -5
UPDATE! Ok, I put on a second coat of JB weld on the manifold last night, since it was already 11PM and I didnt feel like starting to put everything back together that late. I let the second coat dry overnight and put everything together this afternoon.
Took it for a ride, and made it up to 60MPH on a flat section of the freeway. : D It also did significantly better on the hills. The one hill that I could previously only do 20MPH going up, I was able to do 40MPH, and I probably could've gotten it going even faster up the hill, but I was coming up to a curve. The acceleration is also a lot better than it was before. Cleaning out the carb jets seems to have worked wonders. : )
I need to adjust the idle timing a bit, and Ill probably fiddle with the fuel mixture while Im at it (I did a rough adjustment before the test ride so I figure I can fine tune it from there) but other than that it seems to be working much better that it was before I cleaned the carb and then the manifold cracked.
I was going to have my brother ride passenger, so I could see how it does with an extra 150LBS on it, but it decided to rain just as I was pulling into my drive way. :-p
Im going to test it with a passenger once it stops raining and see how much of a difference there is.
Once again, I wanna say THANK YOU SO MUCH to everyone for their help, especially Alley. Youve all saved my butt here more than once. X D
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Post by jerseyboy on Aug 2, 2014 17:46:04 GMT -5
So it was an air leak all along...lol Just buy a new one dewd,,they are only what you paid for the JB weld..
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Post by blarboose on Aug 2, 2014 19:03:21 GMT -5
So it was an air leak all along...lol Just buy a new one dewd,,they are only what you paid for the JB weld.. The air leak in the manifold happened AFTER I cleaned the carb jets. My original problem (lousy top speed) was fixed by cleaning the jets. Then when I put everything back on, the manifold cracked which greatly weakened the vacuum going to the fuel pump, so much so that it couldnt sustain enough fuel at lower RPMs. I currently have my original intake manifold, and the one i got to replace it. The original is back on the bike, all patched up with JB, and working great. The newer one, Im gonna give another few coats of JB to make it extra durable, and keep as a spare. If the one on the bike breaks, I have another ready to go.
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Post by phssthpok on Aug 2, 2014 19:19:57 GMT -5
'Road Spares' Whenever I replace a wear item on a vehicle, I generally keep the old ones as 'emergency road spares' Things like belts, hoses, spark plug wires, spark plugs, etc. They don't take up much room, and can be a lifesaver in a pinch. I currently have a spare intake manifold, coil/plug wire, CDI and drive belt in the scoots storage compartment.
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Post by blarboose on Aug 2, 2014 22:50:59 GMT -5
'Road Spares' Whenever I replace a wear item on a vehicle, I generally keep the old ones as 'emergency road spares' Things like belts, hoses, spark plug wires, spark plugs, etc. They don't take up much room, and can be a lifesaver in a pinch. I currently have a spare intake manifold, coil/plug wire, CDI and drive belt in the scoots storage compartment. XD its kinda funny. I wasnt even intending on doing that, but I kinda did. I have an old walmart bag in my garage that I use as a trash bag, but whenever Ive replaced parts I put them in a different bag, just because. As a result, I havent thrown out any of the old parts when Ive thrown out the trash bag. So now, I have a spare manifold, sparkplug, CDI, horn, fuel filter, fuel pump, carb diaphragm, tail light cover (half of one anyway), air filter, and turn signal bulb.
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Post by blarboose on Aug 2, 2014 22:58:22 GMT -5
Oh also, UPDATE TIME! : D After the rain stopped I got my brother to ride passenger and took it out for a ride. He weighs about 150 pounds, and I weigh 165, so it was almost double the normal load for the bike to move. I was able to do just under 50 on a flat surface and 35 up that hill that I was able to do just over 40 going up by myself. I had to squeeze the brakes harder obviously, but I still didnt have any problem braking in general. Acceleration was slower than by my self, as expected, but not so much as I thought it would be. All in all, I think I should be able to carry a passenger without too much trouble. Ill want to avoid the highway or anything where I need to be going much over 40MPH, but in general the bike did better than I was expecting. Something that has been mentioned a few times in this thread is the weights. Would switching to 11 gram weights get me any better performance (with or without a passenger) or are we thinking that this is probably as good as Ill get? A similar question; would fine tuning the valves get me any improvement? The issues from before (both the stumble at WOT and the dying at low RPMs) are both completely gone now. Would/could tweaking the vales potentially get me any improvement? Or would I just be asking for trouble. (Considering my track record of "Oh, Ill tweak this" followed by "Oh, now it doesnt work at all")
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Post by geh3333 on Aug 3, 2014 20:13:07 GMT -5
What rpms do you reach on a straight run ? That will help answer your roller weight question .
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Post by blarboose on Aug 3, 2014 22:40:12 GMT -5
What rpms do you reach on a straight run ? That will help answer your roller weight question . Yknow, I was so excited that I was actually getting decent speeds, that I didnt even think to look at the RPMs. XD Ill have to take a run tomorrow and take a look at it.
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