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Post by brandjur on Jul 27, 2013 23:14:29 GMT -5
You might need to upjet to # or #92. First move the needle lower (clip higher) on the carb. See if that has any effect on your backfire. Also, what does the plug look like? As far as top speed, since you have the torque springs, you might need heavier sliders to reach higher speeds. I would recommend getting 6g sliders and trying those. If the 6g are a tad too heavy, you could mix the 6g/5g for an effective 5.5g sliders. With the idle, did you see what size pilot jet the new carb came with? If it is larger than your old carb, you could always switch.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 27, 2013 22:57:40 GMT -5
After I installed an A9 cam, I went from ~40mph to 46mph consistent max. The A9 helps with the mid to upper rpms so you can get those extra mph's. I found one on ebay for $30. I have a TaoTao ATM50. I changed out the rollers and now can get up to around 39mph. If I change to a cam like this one, will I see any improvement? How hard is it to do? Seems like it would be easy. It would make an improvement, but if you are going to do improvements modifications in steps, a big bore kit is recommended before the A9 camshaft. For installation of a big bore kit or a camshaft, there are tons of youtube videos on the GY6 and archives. Sometimes others have shown it better and videos can show more detail in the procedure. I did the A9 cam after my big bore because lower end grunt may suffer a little when installing the A9 camshaft. With the big bore, I get the extra torque down low that I needed. With the A9 camshaft, I get the mid to higher rpm horsepower I wanted.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 27, 2013 15:45:42 GMT -5
[replyingto=skuttadawg]skuttadawg[/replyingto]If you use it as a breaker bar, sounds like you got the higher torque one. I use a clickable one for the higher torque. Since torque wrenches are precision instruments, they should be stored separately from regular tools so it doesn't get banged around. But again, for those who are just beginning wrenching, a bar type is good to start with and it shows the progression of increasing torque. Some people just don't know their own strength, lol.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 27, 2013 13:18:16 GMT -5
Haha, I agree with you especially for these engines that are inconsistent. For the new "wrencher," they need to start somewhere. So, a good baseline is a good start with the proper torque wrench. Once they gain more experience, then they can go by feel.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 27, 2013 13:03:57 GMT -5
Hey guys, Thought I would try to help prevent future stripping of bolts since there have been a few already who have done this in the past few months. When I was being taught to build aluminum engines, I was taught to use a beam type torque wrench. The reason? Aluminum is a softer metal and can strip a lot easier than cast iron. Also, the torque specs are lower. So for these GY6 based engines that take smaller torque specs, less than 25lb/ft, use a beam type. The reason for the beam? 1. The cheapo click torque wrenches rated at ~60lb/ft or less just don't work. I have seen numerous people strip bolts with these. 2. With the beam type, you can see the torque increase on the beam as you turn harder, so you have less of a chance of over-torquing the bolt You might say, well I have seen engine builders use click type. Yes, they do, but....those click type torque wrenches are checked often for accuracy and they are much much more expensive to ensure their accuracy. For the axles, I would recommend a good click type torque wrench as the axles can take variances without breaking. Lastly, if you do buy a click type of torque wrench for the axles or for the car lug nuts, you generally want to purchase one with max torque that is 2x the torque area you will be working with. So, if your car lug nuts take 80lb/ft, purchase a 150 lb/ft tq wrench. The click type torque wrench becomes less accurate in its lower and higher range. Hint: don't forget to always set your click type torque wrench to 0, or less if it can, after use so the band inside doesn't stretch, thus rendering the torque wrench less accurate. Disclaimer: I cannot account for the casting quality of manufacturers. You may do everything right, but it still strips. And for me, I don't use a torque wrench on my GY6 single cylinder engines because after building over a dozen car engines, and now the top end of 3 GY6 engines, there is a "feel" of how tight that just comes with experience and knowing your tools. Now if I was doing a V8 all aluminum engine where every cylinder should be consistent, then I would use a beam type torque wrench. I hope this helps, if not, then please ignore.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 27, 2013 12:20:57 GMT -5
Anyone can call names. That is life and that's what typically happens on messageboards. I have been a moderator on 2 car forums over the past 13 years. You see this all the time.
Does Alleypoop go beyond than necessary to insult, yes! I can call him an old man who has nothing better to do than try to get angry at others for trying to learn. Alleypoop may see the same questions, but from new people. Alleypoop does NOT have to say anything. If he does, I have learned to de-sensitize and bypass his answers. Does it make it even HARDER to for new people to search the correct answer? YES, because then the archives and threads get full of poor remarks and sometimes wrong answers.
Just like any other messageboard or Google for that manner, we have to take advice, results, and what people claim as fact with a grain of salt. Yes, the attitude that some people give here does create a worse environment. Messageboards always have new waves of people coming in, and old ones who leave. If we don't embrace the new people who continue our scooter enthusiasm, then the board will die. Setting a good tone keeps people coming back.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 27, 2013 10:35:17 GMT -5
The A9 cam lobes are wider as well allowing more air/fuel to go into the cylinder and more time for the exhaust gasses to escape out.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 26, 2013 23:19:22 GMT -5
After I installed an A9 cam, I went from ~40mph to 46mph consistent max. The A9 helps with the mid to upper rpms so you can get those extra mph's. I found one on ebay for $30.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 21, 2013 11:04:49 GMT -5
Have you checked the plug, or is it at a point where you can't get it to WOT? Perhaps try a 92- MJ. I have a 47mm with A9 cam, stock head. I use an MJ.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 20, 2013 18:02:57 GMT -5
Hi,
I might get a used SYM Fiddle II that needs some engine work. So, I was thinking of doing a bbk on it. From what I have read, it has the 1P52QMI engine in it. However, I could not find anyone online who has actually done a bbk on it. I know about the P head difference.
I was simply wondering if a 58.5mm cylinder kit would be a direct bolt on. (plus upjet)
If you do know of a thread, please link it.
Thanks
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Post by brandjur on Jul 18, 2013 13:01:58 GMT -5
That sounds great! Keep us posted on how she runs.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 17, 2013 15:40:32 GMT -5
So is it all fixed and all you really needed to do was find the working valve clearances?
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Post by brandjur on Jul 17, 2013 13:27:08 GMT -5
[replyingto=kyle401]kyle401[/replyingto]Thank you sir. I painted my wheels black so will get some pics up soon. They only problem right now....it is so hot outside.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 17, 2013 11:29:33 GMT -5
I rode the other day with 2 P200s, 2 Stellas, 2 Buddy 125s, and a Blur. After talking to the Stella owners, they both had vintage Vespas and said the biggest thing they liked about their Stellas was not having to mix the gas and not worrying about getting vintage parts fixed. They also agreed that you choose style or you choose convenience, lol. So is the story of life.
The P200 is a nice scooter and makes a nice 2T sound. I hope you get her up and running soon. Anything, regardless of price or style can wear out and break...or in this case if improperly installed.
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Post by brandjur on Jul 17, 2013 11:07:31 GMT -5
[replyingto=scoots]scoots[/replyingto]I'm using the stock carb that came with the scooter. It's re-jetted to # after the bbk.
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