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by: indymoped - Jun 9, 2013 11:18:39 GMT -5
Post by indymoped on Jun 9, 2013 11:18:39 GMT -5
I never put those on. Why advertise to thieves? I totally agree with this. I guess it depends on what area you are in too. The only sticker I'd put on mine is an anti theft alarm. Lol |
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Post by indymoped on Jun 9, 2013 11:14:57 GMT -5
Just pull the fan shroud cover, the fan, and the magnet rotor and you can count the number of poles. Do the same on your old engine and then if they are different swap them around and see if that fixes your problem. (It is sad that a company selling you a $350.00+ part cant even list the exact specifics of the engine)
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Post by indymoped on Jun 9, 2013 11:07:31 GMT -5
To test if you weren't getting fuel you said you used carb cleaner. Try going and buying some starting fluid and see if it will start then. Carb cleaner is not as flammable as most people think. Years and years ago it was more flammable but not so much today. Some brands you can spray at a match and it will just put it out.
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Post by indymoped on Jun 9, 2013 10:53:37 GMT -5
The bottom of the gas tank is below the carb? Did you move the gas tank from the factory location? As far as I know the "fuel pumps" we have are nothing more than a valve that opens and shuts with vacuum and I don't believe they create any pressure to actually "pump" the fuel.
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 21:56:38 GMT -5
If you get water in just the right area it can and will mess something up. Most of the time you are ok tho and sometimes people who ride in the rain and then have starting problems are having issues not even related to the rain. Just coincidence.
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 21:39:30 GMT -5
If you have it timed correctly and the engine has compression then there are only 2 things left that could be causing it not to start. 1) You may have spark out in the open air but that does not mean that it is good enough to ignite the fuel mixture when it is compressed inside the cylinder. It takes about 9 times more voltage. So first check your spark plug gap. It should be at .027" If it still doesnt start then you need to check how big of a gap the spark can jump. It should be able to jump a gap of at least 1/4" preferably more. You can either improvise a tool to test this or go buy a spark/ignition tester. Oreillys Sells them. www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/LIS0/50850.oap?ck=Search_50850_-1_1454&keyword=508502) You have a fuel delivery issue. (Check your plug gap first and get back to us before we have you check on this) |
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 21:18:57 GMT -5
How is the second one adjustable is a PC required?? No you turn the brass screw on the back to advance and retard the timing. It's a step up from the 8.99 one which has fixed advanced timing. (I had it installed on my scooter and really the only difference I noticed was it was harder to start. My top speed was the same and I didn't notice any increased acceleration) If you really want a CDI that will make a difference you gotta get a little more expensive one. I just bought a Progress Racing CDI and a POSH Racing CDI and they both actually make a difference. It is an extremely small difference but it is a difference. |
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 21:11:04 GMT -5
It probably has more of a deep almost snapping sound to it that the camera mic doesnt pic up on huh? I took a vid of my 150cc with my exhaust and it sounded great in person but the video came out like yours. It sounds good on video but way way better in person. Lol
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 21:07:32 GMT -5
49cc Yellow Peace Motorsports 4600 miles
50cc/150cc Swap 365 Hrs
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 21:00:07 GMT -5
When your riding the gas is splashing around and a little bit of it is going to get out. That's what the gasket is there to prevent.
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 20:56:52 GMT -5
You won't vapor lock the motor or hurt anything as long as you don't leave it sitting with the petcock bypassed. If you don't want to have to switch the hoses around every time you shut the scoot off get an inline shut off valve.
As far as the petcock the stock ones in my experience anyways have always been very reliable so that is why I have my doubts that your petcock is casuing the issue but it never hurts to check.
Also I wouldn't go out and buy a Mikuni unless it turn out yours is bad.
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 16:15:59 GMT -5
The best thing to improvise an exhaust gasket for a scooter is a head gasket from a car. I used one on both my scooters and they lasted well over 1000 miles.
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 15:39:23 GMT -5
If you find that after fill ups is the only thing in common with being able to not struggle to get to top speed I would start there. Check the tank for any sort of debris that could be clogging it. Also this is very far fetched but could the weight of having more fuel in the tank be helping cover up a worn out petcock valve? Maybe try bypassing the petcock if it is externally mounted...
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 15:03:38 GMT -5
I found this thread on total ruckus about 150cc pressure. totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=48202According to this thread the oil pump does not really create any pressure but just moves it to the cylinder head to lubricate the valve train. Also found on another site that a 150cc gy6 oil pump rating is 10ml/m So it looks like these pumps are made to move oil but they don't really pressurize it. (I can only assume the same is true for a 50cc) |
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Post by indymoped on Jun 8, 2013 12:58:28 GMT -5
Yes an oil cooler would definitely benefit any air cooled engine especially if it is modded and you are sustaining high speeds. I am not sure about whether or not the factory oil pump can create enough pressure to push the extra volume of oil tho. I'm sure someone who has one installed will chime in eventually here.
You may also want to consider making an air scoop for the fan shroud to try and get more air over the engine.
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