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Post by spandi on Jul 29, 2015 1:57:27 GMT -5
Hoca is Very good quality. Like my fellow "Dawgs" I thinkin' locked up bearings. I had a spacer rub against a spring loaded clip, form a "tin-can edge" and pop a bearing seal.  |
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Post by spandi on Jul 28, 2015 14:47:17 GMT -5
The Kymco Agility models are produced in China.All major automobile manufacture vehicles in China. Personally if I buy a Bintelli or Wolf for a reasonable price I don't care if it lasts 20000 miles. I guess a Chevy built in China would blow up within a year or two. Buying a Bintelli with local dealer service and have no worries. All this lack of quality debate and prejudice reminds me of the bad rep Japanese cars had in the 60's. I especially like the bashing by people who never bought a Znen scooter. Hope they don't own a Apple phone. The important thing is support, as much as quality. I remember back around 08, and you had low quality scooters coming from low quality makers flooding the market, hence the reputation. The manufacturers obviously won't back up their product for the retail customer, that's not their job, and that's assuming you could figure out who made your bike, but considering that a lot of the importers were either shysters or running on a shoestring, you didn't get much support from them either. A dealer at the south end of the county offers scooters starting around $600 to $700, but what do you think that buys you? With my Havoc, even with the intermittent problem i'm having (which seems to be gone, knock on wood), i haven't been too worried as the dealer has been rock solid about supporting the scooter, and the road service and warranty give me plenty of confidence that the problem when found will be fixed right. Yeah, well in 2008 gas prices were very high, and so was the demand for anything fuel efficient. The Chinese manufacturers were turning scoots out like hotcakes (and with about the same level of quality) That's why I always tell folks to stay away from anything made before 2010. |
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Post by spandi on Jul 28, 2015 12:31:56 GMT -5
Hello Danielle and welcome to our scooter site! The Honda PCX is a fine machine and you'll have a blast riding it and seeing the world from a whole different perspective.  |
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Post by spandi on Jul 28, 2015 11:59:29 GMT -5
Iv'e found this to be a good source of high quality parts, the only trouble is they ship from Europe a it takes forever (like a month or more) to get here.  www.racingplanetusa.com/ |
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Post by spandi on Jul 27, 2015 16:44:28 GMT -5
no just behind the fuel is the only fan Ive seen! and again thanks for the help the pic of 250 Honda were out of focus for me to view. really don't want to try and stat it if it needs water in radiator in stead of oil and also no kick strarter on it The picture was an enlargement of your own scooter. I have the same motor and it certainly does not pump oil in the radiator. (I'm thinking a gasket let go)  |
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Post by spandi on Jul 27, 2015 16:13:52 GMT -5
No fan (on the right side) either.
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Post by spandi on Jul 27, 2015 15:48:32 GMT -5
looks to me like a water cooled CN250 Honda clone engine.  |
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Post by spandi on Jul 26, 2015 18:52:03 GMT -5
Also you might want to check the bearings.  |
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Post by spandi on Jul 24, 2015 4:50:13 GMT -5
I remember a story out of Florida years ago, where a thief was confronted a an armed home owner, and received a "Warning shot" in his back  |
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Post by spandi on Jul 23, 2015 16:33:43 GMT -5
Ever consider Hondabond HT (high Temperature) in conjunction with the gaskets |
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Post by spandi on Jul 20, 2015 23:15:15 GMT -5
You should have NO trouble after being able to do all that. And I don't blame you for keeping the Reflex, (I'd keep the Honda too.) I can't say yet as to belt life as I replaced the original (new) belt with a Japanese Bando unit, . (did I mention "over the top"  ) Oh yeah, the CF Moto is a clone of the 244cc Helix unit, so upgrading any parts you want should present no problems. In fact, I swapped out the Chinese starter clutch for an OEM Honda unit and it dropped right in. |
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Post by spandi on Jul 20, 2015 21:17:08 GMT -5
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Post by spandi on Jul 20, 2015 20:50:50 GMT -5
In a lot of ways the parts that were on there were sufficient, but as I said I kinda took it as far as I could go. Malossi clutch, Pirelli tires, nine coats of gloss black paint on the frame, ceramic bearings, Samco silicone hoses. As it stands now the scoot is about a third Italian, a third British, and the rest Chinese.  |
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Post by spandi on Jul 20, 2015 12:57:59 GMT -5
Since your question is about CHINESE scooters allow me to give you my perspective as an owner of one. The scoot I have is a Znen 250cc (I agree with you about getting sufficient horsepower in the first place) having already ridden a 125 Honda scoot I was surprised by the overall build of the unit. (first hand experience as opposed to "Ghost Stories" by people who never had a China scoot) The bike had heavy parts and a solid structure, but, where the Chinese seem to mess up is in the quality of the small details such as bearings, bolts, cleaner welds. And I have often asked myself the same question as you, and thought that with a 20% improvement in QC they could eat Japan's lunch. So I ended up doing a more than necessary rebuild, (OK, so I went over the top. Well, WAY over) and in turn have what amounts to a two wheeled Jag-u-ar  contrary to popular scooter "mythology" the Honda clone engines will take, and have available a wide range of very high quality parts. In doing the work myself I have learned about what goes on with every part of my scoot, and in addition to not having to pay someone $80-100 an hour after the warranty is done. Chinese bikes aren't for everyone, but for those with a mechanical knack, can be reliable and a whole lot of fun. BTW, I would avoid any Chinese scoot from from 2008-2009 when gas prices were high and they were turning out product way too fast. |
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Post by spandi on Jul 19, 2015 23:28:22 GMT -5
Those who remember, remember this.  |
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