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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:20:35 GMT -5
i was i dontknow, thinking the belt lowered in teh back, and the belt rising, on the front as it, goes. as its doing action. and they start by not moving. so going. and the belt rising on the drive face. belt rise vs clutch depth. the amount of where the belt is at on the rear driven pulley. riding on the top or riding down in the driven pulley, any amount.
so i answered from there. didnt think it was impossible to read it. and these guys are going off on some technical crap. about some clutch thats not even supposed to work that way. clutches arent by definition that. whats the clutch? what makes it go? the clutch weight sets? the clutch springs? they dont actually name anything clutch.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:17:07 GMT -5
It's a centrifugal clutch, which is a true clutch. Never heard of a "clutch shoe" before. A centrifugal clutch has spring loaded swing arms that swing out at the proper RPM to engage the clutch bell. Perhaps you could look through some scooter parts websites and see what we are talking about. i was just answering the question right.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:16:33 GMT -5
if i was to. once again. go back to the topic title and read it. cvt belt rise vs clutch depth. once again by definition. HAHAA
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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:15:41 GMT -5
well WHATEVER at least my response makes more sense and answers more questions than yours. yoru the ones getting all caught up on stupid crap. that doesnt matter.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:14:58 GMT -5
whatever.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:09:58 GMT -5
The clutch assembly consists of the clutch bell , arms and pads , 3 clutch springs and one main spring , and your clutch pulley bearings , sheave . no a clutch by definition arent those things. ok let me actually answer this. centrifical force is the clutch. this is a continously variable transmission. i think the roller weights are the clutch.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:09:07 GMT -5
I marked the CVT face with ink to check the rise of the belt and it was a 1/4 below. I just put on a new 1.) variator (115mm Motorio) 2.) stock clutch and ran the ink test --- failed. 3.) final gear gear change 15/36. 4.) 842 gates bando belt HOWEVER - The MAIN question is : How do I determine / measure how *** " LOW " ***the belt goes down the face of the CLUTCH ?? low? how far the front, drive face pulls it. thats how low itll go. is there, more to be gotten? umm. im not a dictionary, math teacher or a math equations book here. but 2 sets of o's. and a just say string wrapped around them, but its a v-string. remember that. so your question doesnt really make sense. so i never read the whole thing. and i took my knowing about clutches and stuff and wrote a response. which still is an answer. it works. it makes sense. the front .. like think of it.. like. a. pretend the thign that happens in the rear is the front of it. as you go faster the front springs and the rear is totally a useless spring. its only function which doesnt matter. is nothign it does nothing it sits there. thats the reason the cvt transmission works. the only thing it does it to spring the rear pulleys back together, so that the belt doesnt get slack in it, and wrap around itself. then break the belt. as you go faster, the front,pretty much, becomes the back. you want your angles and lengths and widths to be right, so that everything works fine. the rear isnt going to depend on the front. it's not manufactured, for the front. its manufactured, by math equations. has to be. the rear, dependant upon the front. rear driven face. and front drive face. those are your 2 pulleys. faces.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 6, 2014 0:00:14 GMT -5
how to determine how far the belt is dropping ? no.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 5, 2014 23:59:07 GMT -5
so i read it like, the belt riding up on the rear driven pulley. driven face is what its called in some service manuals. if you guys had an actual service manual with technical names in it. the clutch shoes, are also called, weight set. they counter the springs. you cant exactly call a spring and a weight countering it, a clutch. what controls the clutch? how can you call it a motor? thats the dumbest thign ive ever heard.
whats a motor. whats an engine? you guys couldnt produce a wheel if you needed to get stuff like, lots of things heavy down a hill, at a faster speed. whatever.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 5, 2014 23:56:18 GMT -5
no wait a minute. i understand now. you guys think of a clutch as the clutch shoes. thats not exactly a clutch. ahg. so i read the topic different. and you guys dont even know what your talking about.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 5, 2014 23:49:09 GMT -5
repeat.
well, i heard to make sure the blocks cold. and 14 hours of freeze time for a crankshaft for me slides bearings hot over the motor. but. 12 hours doesnt do it. theyre too tight. depends on tolerances. why the go through all the trouble if your not gonig to get the measurements right.
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oil?
by: rexxk - Jun 5, 2014 22:33:25 GMT -5
Post by rexxk on Jun 5, 2014 22:33:25 GMT -5
if your running hte injector make sure its injecotr compatible. if your premixing and not running hte pump and plugging it off. then whatever is good for 2 stroke mixing.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 5, 2014 22:31:29 GMT -5
have you ever put on gloves before. if they don't fit you then they slop off, you try to get a cigarette from your pocket and you end up not being able to stick your fingers in your pocket to grab, the pack. you burn a finger off trying to light it. if its too tight, you lose a finger because of no blood flow.
sort of the same way with a scooter. youll loose something if it dont fit. like a glove.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 5, 2014 22:29:19 GMT -5
dont get what you mean. i just know that since there isnt an adjustment its gotta fit like a glove. not too hard. so.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 5, 2014 19:00:24 GMT -5
adjust your throttle cable yet? give it slack, at idle screw turned, out? watch out about finding, a keihin carb. theres lots of copies. best to find either a name brand seller, or a used one off a known to use that type of carb bike. like an xr80 but i dont know what carb, or bike your looking for.
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