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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 20:00:15 GMT -5
i see your bike idling up as you turned in the mix screw. i see your idle adjustment screw, wayyy up there. you know thats attached to the gas, pedal right? whatever percent its pushed out, from closed, from the one side, touchign the other, is the amount of gas pedal your giving it. ? im thking yoru at oh around 1/10 throttle orso. too much
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:58:53 GMT -5
im not 100% like i dont have a tach gauge myself. to know what my clutch bell does at 1100 rpms. to say what it does, or ever has done anywehre. but. answer a few questisons for me. can you lower your idle? if it runs, lower it with the idle screw. if its not got any slackin your throttle cable, at it all the way shut off. that screw turned out, until its not pushing, against, the other thing. ? a jigger. whatever, then your throttle cable needs adjusted. or whatever,needs fixed. something. does. something needs fixed.
and also, what screw turns out, is the mixture screw set at?
its in a manual that the mixture screw doesnt come out more than 3 1/2 turns .. and not less that 1 1/4 turns. if it does. then that means yo NEED TO CHANGE THE PILOT JET.
if you cant figure this out yu cant set the idle you cant have it run and you cant GO fix something else.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:54:24 GMT -5
it just is. stock springs. they do that. and i dont even see his rear wheel in that video. and its not that fast. his rpms are too high. maybe the engines putting out more torque, from running leannnnn. when it does do, a revolution is more torquey from lean. but its a stock spring. dont worry about it, is my point, if its not giving you trouble and you can keep it running. if at 1100 rpm its not spinning, then dont worry. if it is, then maybe then you got a problem. but if you dont like it, buy some other performance springs...
so dont worry. first, he cant even lower his idle to 1100 rpms without it dying. he cant adjust the idle at all. says he hasnt got the mixture set right.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:51:34 GMT -5
no ive watched and seen this topic. i read every bit of it. i been trying to tell him. let off the throttle. and it continues this is the second day. today ive watched as hes walked back and forth. id ont know what he does. i work on my bike but done it a bunch of times so when i spend a couple hours i do things. but i asked him to do 1 simple thing and he takes off doing something else. and your giving bad advice in the middle of it.
he dont need to adjustnothing if its not broke. the idle isnt at idle. the mixture isnt idling. it isnt mixed for idle. and the throttle is the 2nd facotr its not at idle. when it dont run doenst mean its not idling. or whatever. YOu need an idle. and idle is not hoolding the throttle wide open and it running. ....
its the throttle barely cracked open. reads like that in every carubretor tuning manual. barely cracked. just enough air to feed the engine at idle. to do that, you need the cable adjusted, andd the screw adjusted.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:47:54 GMT -5
hope you understande i alreday addressed that. but you come in and knock everyone off track and give him bad advice about hand tightenning a nut. whereever you got that idea. just since its not logical and goes against het manual. can you video yourself with no cuts. extra insure us. by stikcin gyour hand in front of it. and revving it on the stand at high rpms. for like 10 minutes.
tell us again how you put your bike together?
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:36:46 GMT -5
ah you dont know what your talking about.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 19:33:08 GMT -5
well from the video i seen he ? turned in the mixture screw? or out? and then it revved up. then died. i dont see a problem but he wont set the idle lower and start it up and tune it from there. not starting. is 1 thing. tuning is another. alleyoop. why dont you show a full fledged video of that. heres and ill show this service manual s1.postimg.org/qz1e8haqn/clutch_lock_nut_torque.png but dont go telling people to do that stuff when your not either doing it yourself or not proven it and even checked against a manual. just. sit there and do nothing sounds like a good idea. but say you dont know what your talking about. |
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 18:58:12 GMT -5
um im leaving. im not spending 2 days to tell someone to adjust their idle. and oh by the way alleyoop. your clutch nut has 0 torque on it. 0 ft/lbs. and so have fun with all that. they require 44 on my 50cc bike. finger tight and you can push it with your foot. reminds me of other advice ive seen given on here. and other places. hope that people arent total retards and blow their heads off.
you know, push it, do this. itll work. the spring will make it work it does everything. whatever. take your mechanic ploy apply it to everything and have fuckign fun would you or could you actually make a video full without cuts of yo udoing thatl then take a trip on your bike? before you write stuff like that? you dont even realize or you probably avctually do which in that case you should apologize, the THING THE CLUTCH SPRING PUSHES AGSINT ISNT EVEN CONNECTED TO .. THAT.
if you get it. i dont really care. i dont gotta sit here and explain why you take everything i say out of context then use every dirty trick to try to say im wrong, prove me wrong again.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 18:52:21 GMT -5
you have a mixture problem. too much air makes it rev high too. how many turns out is that mixture screw set at?
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 18:33:52 GMT -5
yea right.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 16:50:32 GMT -5
heres my thing, i dont think it needs that much air. the amount that flipper is pushed is around 1/8 throttle or something with the idle screw. there. so hes trying to mix the carb at 1/8 throttle. probably not getting the highest rpms. whenyou turned, in or out the mixture screw there, the rpms raised. well, i dont know. yoru idle should be set for idling rpms. and that shouldnt be no where that far out. it should be cracked. but im running a throttle slide 2 stroke. but i dont turn my screw, the slide is barely like paper thin or maybe 3 sheets of paer at the MOST cracked open. if i held the throttle at that open with nmy throttle cable, id be heading down the road. so your running 1800 rpms at that sort of idle adjustment. thats why your running so bad. thats whta i think
edit: whatever
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 16:47:22 GMT -5
 see that? turn it down. turn the IDLE SCREW out, OK?!!!! OUTT!! idle isnt but maybe 1mm of space between the two things im trying to mark off in red there. that space shouldnt be but 1 mm apart. but it should be closed when you adjust the throttle cable. and get your 1/16 of an inch of slack. if you turn if out, the IDLE SCRE#W TURN IT OUT, when you do, if the 2 thigns dont go together, then theres a problem. if the throttle cables attached, THEN PULL YOUR THROTTLE back and see if theres any slack. iF NOT THEN AEDJUT THE THROTTLE CABLE. ..... if its not attached find the problem. OK OK OK OK OK THEN WE CAN GO TO step 2. turn the idle screw in just a bit. step 3. then you WANT TO COUNT the number of turns out your mixture screw is rigtht now in case i screw you up so you dont have to readjust. turn the mixture screw in, until it seats. counting th enumber of turns. remember the number of turns. readjust if it wont run again after this, but you NEED TO SET THIS RIGHT> then from, seated, turn the mixture screw, 2 - 2 1/2 turns out. then start it up. then after it warms up, adjust the mixture screw. at a high idle. adjust the idle rpm, with the idle screw. once its .. fixed, then lower back down your idle again, with the idle adjustment screw. people get the idle adjustment screw mixed up with a high idle mixture adjustment. and all that. the idle needs to be a slight high idle to adjust the mixture screw. you adjust mixture screw to get the highest idling. if the mixture screw gives you a highest idle, somewhere before around 1 1/2 turns out, to over 3 1/4 turns out, then adjust the pilot jet. |
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 16:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 16:00:08 GMT -5
im thinking tuning your on the wrong circuit. or the bike has an airleak, maybe from one of the hoses. if its not tight. or something itll be impossible to tune the idle mixture. first get the idle rpms down, with the idle rpm screw. the one that moves the thing that gets pulled back by the throttle cable. turn it off, until the 2 bars touch each other. then barely crack it open. set your mixture screw, then at around 2 turns out. then start it up.
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Post by rexxk on Jun 7, 2014 12:20:40 GMT -5
i had that. i used a a set of pliers on the side of teh screws. but your needle if youve never messed with it should be good.
try to turn the idle down as far as it goes, the screw should, actually, screw out. and it only is attached to the bar ur throttle cable pulls on. and it screws, into, on the thing it stops against. someone probably messed with your carb since the throttle cable was messed with. you got a picture of it, and the throttle calbe and all that? right at the carb where it hooks on.
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