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Post by jugdish on Oct 22, 2015 17:57:51 GMT -5
I spoke with a tech person at Scrappydog and he thinks it's a carb jet issue. I'm not as knowledgeable as he is, but it doesn't make sense to me. He said I should be at a .80 jet, from the stock .72.
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Post by scripting25 on Oct 23, 2015 8:10:00 GMT -5
Thank you for chiming in urbanmadness but........... I've borrowed the coil and CDI off my wife's scooter (which runs great, knock on wood, and it better once I put it back together or it's my ), anywho, borrowing her equipment did not help my ride. Still same issue. I changed the drive belt last summer after it blew up and shredded all over the place Also changed it on my wife's scooter to keep her's from doing the same thing. Jugdish, I can't see our issue being related to a jet. That would help with rich/lean issues. For example, I might be able to change the main jet to have mine run a little more lean, this way I wouldn't have to worry about getting a new carb only so I could move the needle clip around. To everyone else, I changed out the vacuum petcock with a new 1 yesterday and tested.......same issue. I think I'll check the valves again to make sure they're ok. I did adjust them after this incident occurred but maybe I didn't do it correct enough. Other then that, I might be at a loss. Thinking about taking it to the local scooter shop but I'm scared they'll put some bubble gum on it and charge me an arm and leg
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Post by jugdish on Oct 23, 2015 11:22:47 GMT -5
Scripting, I'm pursuing a vacuum leak angle. I'm going to replace all tubing, get it running and warm without driving, and start spraying ether around intake manifold, vacuum lines etc to see if there is a change in idle speed. Will post results. I don't think it's carb related, with your carb swap, and between the two of us, basically every electrical and fuel component has been changed.
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Post by jugdish on Nov 17, 2015 1:47:12 GMT -5
Replaced all vacuum lines and got it running after turning it over for a bit. It had been sitting for awhile. It ran good, after I had accidentally hooked battery up backwards. A little smoke and it seems to be ok. That was fun. Gonna check it again tomorrow and get it out on road. My hopes aren't too high, as it still seems as though not much gas is pulling from tank.
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Post by buddman4854 on Nov 18, 2015 11:02:43 GMT -5
For over a month I have had symptoms similar to this. I had an "eureka" moment last weekend. I have changed out parts and the symptoms have gone away and then came back. I have read this thread and not seen my solution. I found that the spacer was cracked and the nuts somewhat loose. Replaced the spacer and gasket. After this the "new" coil with coil wire was not staying on the spark plug. At idle it would slide down but the vibrations at a higher idle it would rise up and arc, changing the timing. Later it would fall down and seem to be attached. I tossed this and put back on my old one and it works great now. Maybe this will be your moment as well. Buddman
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Post by buddman4854 on Nov 18, 2015 11:05:04 GMT -5
Was not clear on previous post. I was referring to the carb spacer. Buddman
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Post by scripting25 on Apr 2, 2016 11:30:47 GMT -5
Hey everyone I is back after the winter break here in VA. The weather is starting to warm up, I wanna ride my scooter around town and.....still can't I'm back to trying to figure it out. My test so far this early spring leaves me right where we left off. Scoot runs great for a bit, I get all excited to ride and then....it chokes out to a death. I was gonna take it by a scooter shop today but the guy wasn't there. I saw my local neighborhood repair guy out in the yard on the way home so I stopped by for words of wisdom. Upon looking over the scoot, he noticed the drain tube has thick yellow slime in it as opposed to ......I dunno, dirty liquid...I really don't know what the hose even does. So I ask you experts....based upon this pic I'll provide, does anyone have an idea as to why the hose has thick, almost mustard like yellow goo in it? It's not 100% filled with the goo, just a coating more or less. I took all that stuff apart and I don't see that goo anywhere else though. Only in the tube. Maybe the canister it's connected to isn't working....I dunno. Thanks!
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Post by JerryScript on Apr 2, 2016 12:07:37 GMT -5
Looks like a crank case vent tube, but can't be sure, what was it hooked up to?
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Post by tortoise on Apr 2, 2016 13:14:12 GMT -5
scripting25 . . have you tested exciter and pulse coils on a cold engine, and again when the engine shuts off? Still unclear if your scooter has an AC or DC-CDI ignition system?
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Post by mftic on Apr 2, 2016 17:57:40 GMT -5
Glad you are back and at it again. I was hoping my steering you in the wrong direction didn't piss you off.
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Post by scripting25 on Apr 3, 2016 20:30:32 GMT -5
I'm adding a pic with a wider shot. The air filter casing is what the hose connects to and I'm wondering what is in that area that I've circled in red. That's where the hose connects and that's a 1 piece unit so I can't see what's in there. I'm wondering if that area could be blocked with that goo and perhaps hinders the motor from running. Does anyone know if that might be the case? I talked to other friends and they think the yellow goo might be broken down Ethanol, maybe not much to worry about and probably isn't the real issue unless I have bad gas running in there somewhere but I've emptied it a dozen times testing the petcock and fuel filter and I've very recently added new gas for testing. I have no idea what pulse coils are oh and I just saw the video you added tortoise. Very cool, Thanks, I'll look into it soon as I can. Not sure if my ride is AC or DC either. Not 2 savvy is this area. It's a generic 150cc scoot if that helps lol I'm also kinda ready to give in and admit it's a cheap knock off that's kicked butt for 5 years and maybe it's time for it to die I dunno. If I do give in, I'll need a place to shop for knock off's. We got ours from scooter depot a few years ago but seems they're out of business and have a lot of bad reviews lol Thanks again! O yeah...here's the pic
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Post by mftic on Apr 4, 2016 9:13:00 GMT -5
I think this is correct So that would be the air filter blow by hose. The other nipple is for the valve cover vent. Theoretically the valve cover vents into the airbox bringing mostly vapors that are supposed to get re-burned when it goes back through the air filter into the engine. Any liquid condensing or also being brought into the air box should get routed down the blow by hose. You are supposed to drain that every so often as it fills up. Some people do away with that system and have no problems at all.
I've never opened up that little box like thing, but would assume it is just an area with baffles in it to help separate liquid from gas. You could test that with a vacuum device or just leave the valve cover vent hose unattached and see if that fixes your problem. Honestly i don't see how it could contribute at all.
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Post by scripting25 on Aug 4, 2016 8:37:03 GMT -5
Hey all So....last update probably forever We did a compression check on the motor which turned in great results. We then did a air leak test which told us there might be a stuck or bent valve. That was probably the issue all along, a stuck or bent....somehow a bad valve. I took the top end apart and took it to my friends shop. He was supposed to clean it up for me and that's been 3 month now lol. It may or may not make it back together again. In the meantime.....I took my wife with me to the motorcycle shop to pick up some dirt bike supplies. She window shopped and sat on a Yamaha vstar 250cc and instantly fell in love with it. Mind you, she got us into scootering since other motorcycles were to big and heavy for her. We've been scootering around town for the past 5 years. So now she feels she's ready to upgrade. We searched craigslist and found a '13 mint condition vstar 250cc and picked it up for her. She LOVES it! I even put a smaller rear sprocket on the bike which helped to stretch out the gears a little bit and gave her another 10-20 mph top speed which we needed for some of the bigger roads. She allowed me to get a motorcycle and after some shopping and cragslist searching, I got myself an '07 Suzuki Boulevard M50 800cc and love it as well. Now we have a bigger riding range. We're looking forward to many riding miles. We're also keeping her "mooter" in good riding shape until it dies. We'll probably let "sctdwg" die a happy death after all.
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Post by buddman4854 on Aug 4, 2016 11:08:45 GMT -5
Hello all. I had much the same problems last year. After much frustration it ended up being a bad intake gasket and a small crack in the intake manifold. A cheap fix after several months of changing out parts. Happy Scooting
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