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Post by ricardoguitars on Mar 11, 2015 12:49:55 GMT -5
Put a proximity alarm on it, it's cheaper than buying a new scooter to replace a stolen one ridescorpio.com/secure/
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 11, 2015 15:04:56 GMT -5
So they moved the bike? It was not locked? What the he** are you thinking, JerryScript? Even though it is not 100% effective; a lock and chain provides excellent protection when paired with steel poles, nice thick trees or well-anchored hand rails. I know you know this, but I have had a couple scoots stolen and I do not wish that dreadful feeling on anyone who has put hard-earned money, time and effort into scoot keep-up. If I have a choice of locking it to a strong anchor out-of-sight or leaving it unlocked in-sight: I will choose the lock method 100% of the time. JMO. I pray that I never have to see this type of post from you again, JerryScript Very disheartening. i don't have a lock for my scoot either. i always thought i would need to lock it to something but most of the time their isn't a tree or pole near. another thought was the only thing a lock will do is deter kids... professional thieves will get through any lock. with that thought, we are really only trying to deter kids since most career criminals aren't going to waste time with a scooter. saw this vid today and with that thick cable wrapped around the body through the rear wheel i doubt any kids would attempt to steal... possibly vandalize though.
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 11, 2015 15:18:49 GMT -5
Here in Vegas, it's not the kids, it's the adult vermin that steal scooters, I have video to prove it, one from the theft of an employee's and now the video from my incident last nite, both adults!
I went to Home Depot this morning and purchased a good heavy 4' length of chain.
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Post by mopojo on Mar 11, 2015 15:58:38 GMT -5
I do not think anything will prevent a determined (or cracked-out) rogue. All we can do is try. This works for me.... True story; been told before: I asked my bud why he had a chain but did not use it. He said nothing ever happens around his place. Two nights later he calls and says he caught some punk kid walking off with it (no resistance). The kid say his brother told him to get it. He keeps it locked now.
So;just because chains and locks wont stop a thief = forget about it? Madness, man.
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Post by ramblinman on Mar 11, 2015 17:11:43 GMT -5
Here in Vegas, it's not the kids, it's the adult vermin that steal scooters, I have video to prove it, one from the theft of an employee's and now the video from my incident last nite, both adults! I went to Home Depot this morning and purchased a good heavy 4' length of chain. yeah well i guess when i think of an adult... i think intelligence. i should have included crack heads, drunks and just your average dummy. sorry you've gone through this twice recently. awhile ago i was leaving work to find my scooter lying on the ground. either someone purposely pushed it over or a cager ran it over. regardless i felt a little rage that day and my scoot was still in working condition so i can only imagine how hard it is to find some moron disrespected and broke your property.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 12, 2015 4:42:12 GMT -5
Locks will shatter like glass after a shot of freon and a smack from a hammer and heavy duty steel cable or bolt cutters are relatively cheap so a big lock is no real detriment to an experienced thief only to those who do it on a whim due to convenience.
A co-worker had a 1,000 lb Big Dog Motorcycle taken in front of his eyes while he was eating his lunch. The rear wheel was chained to the frame however that did not stop 4 men who pulled up in a work van from stopping quickly, lifting it into the van and driving off before he could even get close to the door. Never recovered either so a $35,000 bike was gone in a heartbeat.
You can and should take reasonable precautions however don't let a big lock or heavy chain give you a false sense of security as sometimes it will be viewed as a challenge and make your bike a target if you take it too far.
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Post by Jarlaxle on Mar 12, 2015 14:55:10 GMT -5
Thread a heavy cable THROUGH a chain and lock both. A thief may have chain cutters, he may have cable cutters...odds are, he won't have both!
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Post by mopojo on Mar 12, 2015 15:59:26 GMT -5
My bikes stopped disappearing after I kept em locked up. As an Ironworker/welder and explosives consultant I know the weakness of steel and other alloys. Leave it unlocked so I can carry it away on my shoulder. Makes it easy as pie.... Had a bank get robbed next door yesterday. Dude got away. Police stations on opposite corners. Cops everywhere. lol Security.... BAH! Keep an eye (when possible) and chains (always) on mine. Man I would be so pi**ed if something was to happen to my bike.... If I see it I'm shootin'. Period. Tired of that sh**. Thanks, scooters.
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Post by scrappydogscooters on Mar 13, 2015 5:39:59 GMT -5
I remember when our warehouse was on East Desert Inn on the east side of Las Vegas a few years ago. I was riding a Benelli Andretti at the time and always parked it underneath the tree that was right in front of my office so I could see it all day. One day, I came in early, about 6am, and not 15 minutes after I was there, a small pickup truck backed up to it, 3 guys jumped out, and proceeded to pick the bike up off it's wheels and start to load it. By that time I was in a full run towards them yelling profanities. They dropped the bike and jumped in the bed of the truck and took off. Crazy! It wasn't that much longer after that I had my TGB R9 parked in the same place. I used to leave my helmet on the handlebars. Some guy pulls up next to it, on a chinese scooter, and takes my helmet off my bike and rides off! I of course jumped on my bike, overtook him, and recovered my helmet. He said that "someone said he could have it". crazy Vegas!
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 14, 2015 2:29:12 GMT -5
I remember your old warehouse Scrappy, and I remember your first days in the new one when you didn't even have the phones hooked up yet and I let everyone here know about it. That's how I got to know the ladies running the place, and they have always been the greatest when I stop by!
I've already purchased a good chain and lock, now I'm looking for the most reasonable cell service for a GPS unit. Cheapest I can find is around $10/month, which isn't bad at all. For now, since I can't use my cell phone at work, I'm leaving it hidden in my scooter. If it gets stolen, I can use Android Device Manager to locate it, and any thief who steals my scooter will not be happy when he sees me show up with my friends to recover my ride!
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 14, 2015 7:29:08 GMT -5
Sadly, mopojo's right, if they're real thieves and they want your ride, they will get it regardless of what's locking it up.
Chains etc keep honest folk honest. And hopefully make the dishonest folk look at the next person's ride to see if it's easier and quicker to take.
I only use a bicycle cable and a matched-key pair of locks, along with a cover. And I've had zero issues. But unlike most of you, I also usually just drive my scoot to work and back. And being parked in front of our busy-busy Panera's I'm sure helps deter potential thieves.
Jerry, maybe mopojo can rig something for you. So if it happens again, at least you get the satisfaction of seeing thief parts scattered around with your scooter....heh heh heh.....
>'Kat
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 14, 2015 17:06:47 GMT -5
Sadly, mopojo's right, if they're real thieves and they want your ride, they will get it regardless of what's locking it up. Chains etc keep honest folk honest. And hopefully make the dishonest folk look at the next person's ride to see if it's easier and quicker to take. I only use a bicycle cable and a matched-key pair of locks, along with a cover. And I've had zero issues. But unlike most of you, I also usually just drive my scoot to work and back. And being parked in front of our busy-busy Panera's I'm sure helps deter potential thieves. Jerry, maybe mopojo can rig something for you. So if it happens again, at least you get the satisfaction of seeing thief parts scattered around with your scooter....heh heh heh..... >'Kat I really think the only solution is a well hidden GPS unit of some sort, be it an old android phone or an actual GPS tracker. The thieves may be able to steal regardless of your precautions, but they cannot hide from GPS! That, or I'll hook up a stereo sized capacitor to use as a shock delivery device, sort of like the foil covered books we made as kids. Would love to come outside to find an attempted thief twitching on the ground from the shock!
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 14, 2015 21:23:04 GMT -5
That, or I'll hook up a stereo sized capacitor to use as a shock delivery device, sort of like the foil covered books we made as kids. Would love to come outside to find an attempted thief twitching on the ground from the shock! See? Now you're figuring this out! Much better to incapacitate than to track them down! Besides that then your scoot isn't messed up, there's that wonderful feeling you'll get watching the twitching! >'Kat
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Post by Jarlaxle on Mar 15, 2015 7:36:23 GMT -5
...until they sue you.
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 15, 2015 14:04:54 GMT -5
ROTFLMAO!!! I have nothing to be sued for, let em find a lawyer that would take that case for a percentage of nothing!
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