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Post by rockynv on Mar 19, 2015 12:09:57 GMT -5
And they are not forced to give back what they stole or reimburse you for any losses or damages.
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Post by lain on Mar 19, 2015 14:44:56 GMT -5
And they are not forced to give back what they stole or reimburse you for any losses or damages. I think you have a warped view on the justice system. Yes, it is extremely flawed, but the way you present jail is incorrect. It is not fun to be in jail, it is not half as nice as you make it seem. There is limited food, and the food is barely digestible. Nothing in jail is free, you have to get someone on the outside to give you money to put into a cantina account to get anything, and that takes forever. I had to do this for a friend who was in jail. You can take classes, but no employer will honor your certificates from adult education classes from jail, period. You can try to call them out on it and bring them to court, but you won't win unless you record them specifically saying they won't honor it. The best you can hope for after jail is a custodial or low level min wage job that employers have a hard time getting anyone to take as a job. Sure you can have a person visit for physical contact, but not all prisons allow you to be intimate, or even alone with the person for that matter. The only kind of people who wouldn't learn their lesson from being imprisoned are usually those who have severe issues, in which case prison isn't built to help them anyways, nor is the mental rehabilitation facilities. People just believe you need to lock them up and keep them out of view, but everyone has a story. Some aren't even stories but clearly overlooked mental imbalances. No one starts out as a criminal. If you have been proven to have stolen something you have to give it to the police, or they will get a warrant and take it by force. If you no longer have it you have to pay fines to the city in equivalent to the worth of the stolen property, it is then up to the victim to claim their property or money. However proving they have stolen something means there has to be proof they took it, or have it. I'm not sure where you got an idea like that, maybe it is different in your state. If you don't have proof they took it though, then they wouldn't be in jail. |
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Post by rockynv on Mar 20, 2015 0:29:03 GMT -5
In the past 50 years I have helped too many recover from thefts where they caught the thieves, proved beyond reasonable doubt that they were guilty but who before they were apprehended fenced the goods and or already spent all the cash they stole with no provision for them to have to pay back to the victims what they took through wage garnishment once they got out or forced labor while in prison.
I worked as a prison/jail consultant inside with the prison population so I am aware of what the situation is inside even eating with the prisoners the same food from the same serving lines that they were in. The food while not gourmet and simply cafeteria style is usually nutritious and a balance diet with some better than what many who worked all their lives and never were jailed can afford in their own homes. As bad as prison is for those incarcerated it is really just a boarding house and not a place where you work at forced labor to earn funds to pay restitution to the victims.
Most administrators in the jails/prisons pretty much know who is who when they get them in there and those who volunteer for PRIDE jobs while in prison, apply themselves to the work and behave do get job recommendations upon release and placement assistance. Too many despite the poor me everyone was just picking on me I am just a victim of circumstance stories they portray, just did not behave and keep their acts clean. Yes I did recommend for hire PRIDE - Prison Resource Industries - workers who were there because they made mistakes but cleaned up their acts and applied themselves consistently doing a good job. Many of them were hired and kept their acts clean making good advancement however those who wanted to make advancement on easy street without having to work very hard at it did not fare as well.
The lazy who do not want to do hard or tedious work and seek illicit means to skip the years of hard work required to prove that they have changed their ways, will ultimately fare badly.
Meanwhile the victims are terribly under compensated by the thieves getting back damaged goods to nothing at all or many times totally unusable property with no restitution from the thief to restore things back to the condition they were in prior to the theft.
The victims are then further victimized as insurances they carry to offer some protection from thieves then goes up although it provided incomplete or very little to no compensation at all.
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Post by mopojo on Mar 20, 2015 7:04:20 GMT -5
Been there, guys.
If you give a sh** about anything at all: It can be your darkest he** (the crying and gnashing of teeth kind = torment).
If there is nothing left for you on this earth or you have forsaken all for whatever reason: It will be a country-club.
Regardless: I think scooter thieves should be shot on site (same as horse-thieves back in da day). Period.
Stay away from captain howdy....lol
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