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Post by scootdude on Jan 24, 2015 4:14:25 GMT -5
So I took my Grandvista 250 out for a ride today. I took it out on a short stint down highway 143 which runs by Sky Harbor in Phoenix. It's a 55 mph stretch of road, but most everyone runs 70 mph plus. I turned the throttle all the way and reached an indicated speed of mph!! It's a 250cc!! I know the speedo is probably overly optimistic by 5 or 6 mph, but even if that's the case this scooter with 12 inch wheels was doing over 80 mph!! I think that's downright amazing!! I know it was over 80mph because no one was passing me. I was leaving all the cars in the rear view mirrors. The lines on the highway were buzzing by fast. It could be that because of the low altitude of only about 1100 ft. Phoenix AZ has almost the perfect 14 to 1 air pressure ratio for the optimal efficiency for a carburetor fed engine to produce the maximum amount of power. I kept my hand on the throttle and it was still accelerating. The 143 is just a short bit of highway, and I had to back off the throttle to merge back into 45mph speed limits on the city streets. The tachometer was reading a maximum of about 7,500 rpm. All I can say is that I was amazed. Not just at the speed, but how stable the bike was at that speed. I have a 125cc scooter that tops out at 55mph with my 210lbs on it. Downhill I can get about 60mph of it but it's topped out. In fact, here in Phoenix with all the 45mph roads, I really don't need a throttle for the 125cc scooter. Just an on/off switch. I'm ether full throttle with it or I'm slowing down for a stop. It's kind of annoying really.
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Post by hillbillybob on Jan 24, 2015 6:34:41 GMT -5
I really don't know how fast my 150cc will go. It will be 3 years old in March, and I've never held it wide open on a flat stretch. Even climbing the 10 and 12% grades that are common here, I rarely use full throttle. I do know it cruises along very nicely at 40 to 45, at a leisurely 5300 to 5900 rpm range, hauling my overweight body (your weight +5 or so), and will average more than 80 mpg....sometimes hitting the mark. You're into mph....I'm more into mpg...at least while on my 12" wheeled, plastic bodied, Chinese made scooter. But come to think of it, I rarely drive over 60 mph on my 1200cc motorcycles either.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 24, 2015 6:49:14 GMT -5
Yep, there is no replacement for displacement! Glad you are enjoying your new ride!
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 24, 2015 8:54:18 GMT -5
Mine supposedly can hit 70 mph. I take Piaggio's word for that. I do know cruising with traffic at 50 is easy-peasy for my 200cc. And the BIG hill at Antioch is no problem, either.
>'Kat
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Post by ricardoguitars on Jan 24, 2015 10:25:26 GMT -5
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Post by spandi on Jan 24, 2015 10:36:46 GMT -5
Yep. it can be done, and on a 125 to boot. waaay back in ' i did 73 mph on a Honda Elite and was passing semi-trailer trucks!
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Post by dmartin95 on Jan 24, 2015 10:45:32 GMT -5
62 MPH (GPS Verified) on a stock Bintelli Havoc 150cc.
I weigh 160Lbs.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jan 24, 2015 11:58:27 GMT -5
My 125cc tops out a bit over 55mph, though the speedo indicates over 60mph.
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Post by Paladin on Jan 24, 2015 14:43:05 GMT -5
I did a run with my smartphone's speedometer app and I hit 65 mph actual with a indicated 71-72. I can touch 75 indicated on the flat, but it takes time to reach it. I found out that WOT sucks gas royally (leaving me on the side Interstate miles away from anywhere, and even AAA takes hours at 3 AM) and on touring I hold a little less that wide open, generally doing an indicated 65, actual about 60... and 75+ mpg instead of 65-.
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jan 24, 2015 15:07:48 GMT -5
Mine hits the rev limiter at ~95MPH.
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Post by shalomdawg on Jan 24, 2015 22:42:59 GMT -5
howdy, my bv 350 will go --===wait for it====---=====as fast as i want it to---============----- i've seen the speedo indicating on the plus side of and the only reason to slow down is that the curvy road started to look like the go pro movies mounted on the race bikes. lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 25, 2015 1:38:08 GMT -5
Well, my Grandvista is similar to yours, maybe a couple mph slower. But I'm heavier... LOL!
On a flat highway, with no headwind, and temp below 80 degrees, mine tops out at - on the speedo. That equates to about -86 actual mph. But THAT is top-speed under optimum conditions. The Grand Dink manual lists the top-speed conservatively at 70 mph.
In actual daily use, typically at degrees summer weather, light winds, up and down hills, it tops out about 80 to 82 mph on the speedo, or 76 to 78 actual mph. Max cruise under most conditions is around 70 indicated, or 66 actual. And loading it with a passenger or lots of groceries doesn't seem to affect it much at all. Plenty of torque in these old rides!
It really IS amazing just how stable these are at highway speeds. But then, originally that's what they were designed for! Truly AMAZING all-purpose scooters!
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My old Xingyue 150 was running at its very finest when I traded it in. Perfect tune, all the good parts, etc. and it topped out at a true 63 mph under ideal conditions. However, the slightest hill, or a little headwind dragged it down to 50-52 in short order, and, a big headwind would pull it down to 45.
Yessir! NO replacement for displacement... Yup!
You can always use an extra 50 or 100 (or 1,000) cc's... But a used Grandvista gives as much bang for the buck as you're likely to find... Si si!
Whatever your top speed, ride safe!
Leo
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Post by rockynv on Jan 25, 2015 6:02:29 GMT -5
The Aprilia 250 has a declared cruising speed of 70/75 mph depending on what your reading however on a flat road will wind out to an actual to 98 gps mph. So don't discount a 250 on the Interstate especially the Piaggio as even when you are not at full throttle they can get well over the posted speed limit and catch you by surprise. With the 15" wheels speeds over 70 mph are no problem on an interstate.
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Post by xyshannen on Jan 25, 2015 10:28:37 GMT -5
With 10g rollers I'm set up for acceleration not top speed, but I still have no problem hitting a verified 60at about 75k rpms with plenty of throttle left. I'm 6'2 230 pounds.
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Post by scootdude on Jan 25, 2015 13:45:54 GMT -5
Freeway speeds, lots of storage carrying capacity, not to mention 2 wheel fun....... What's not to like? Especially for a low cost, high gas mileage vehicle. I love it!
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