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Post by kxj5906 on Feb 18, 2014 22:56:06 GMT -5
Hi guys,
I have a Suzuki Burgman 400cc 2004 model that recently is having a little bit of difficulty starting. The mechanic at the local Suzuki dealer recommended me charging my battery, since most of my riding is stop and go no-more-than-10 minutes. He suspects the battery has been drained and that is why I am recently getting starting issues. Before, I would fire the scooter right up, but now it takes 4-5 seconds for it to start.
I bought a 1.5 AMP motorcycle trickle charger with an automatic maintain mode so when it's charged it won't overcharge it.
I want to know how to care for scooter batteries.
How often do you guys recommend charging and caring for the battery? Once a week? Twice a week?
Thanks.
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Post by earlwb on Feb 18, 2014 23:00:38 GMT -5
I would suggest at least once a week. Probably twice a week in some cases. The problem is if you are going on shorter rides or lots of stop and go at slower speeds, the the battery doesn't get charged up. If you were doing longer higher speed runs then there is time to recharge the battery. Also when the outside temperatures are higher then if the radiator fan turns on and more or less stays on, then that draws down the battery even more which means you probably need to recharge twice a week, or worse even more often.
I almost forgot, but one can change out the incandescent light bulbs for LED lights instead. This is the turn signals, running lights, and tail lights. The LEDs use a lot less current or power to run so it frees up more power to keep the battery charged up.
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Post by shalomdawg on Feb 18, 2014 23:31:49 GMT -5
howdy and congrats on the burgman. I have found that I need no battery maintainance since I apparently ride far enough and often enough to keep everything up to snuff. if I was riding less I would be conscious of small differences such as riding on low beam during the daytime, letting off on the brake after stopping, not using the turn signals if there is no-body nearby to be affected. in other words minimize use of electrical items. the other option is as I do, occasionally take a longer ride just , as my grandmother might have said, "on account of because". that might charge things up and warm up the oil which would help drive moisture out of the crankcase. it would also keep the brake discs and rotors in better shape etc. and be fun?
lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 18, 2014 23:47:19 GMT -5
Did the mechanic check your battery and charging system, or just tell you he "suspects" the battery is drained? The only way to really test a battery is to run something with a known wattage for a set amount of time, then see how long it takes to re-charge the battery. Many people in the electric vehicle forums use a light bulb, run for 30min-1hour, then put it on a charger. If the battery is charged in less time than it was used to drain it, then it is bad.
Good news is, you can get a replacement battery for $35 or less!
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Post by junkyarddog on Feb 19, 2014 0:22:50 GMT -5
I have 3 scooters and 2 motorcycles, and I have a Battery Tender Jr. connected to them, at all times. When I go for a ride, I unplug it, then plug it back in when I get back. I've been doing this for the past 5 years or so. I have noticed substantially increased battery life. I have spent a fortune on motorcycle/scooter batteries over the last 35 years. The tenders definitely help a lot. If your battery is already bad, you may have to replace it anyway.
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Post by UniqueSP on Feb 19, 2014 9:51:28 GMT -5
I use the Battery Tender waterproof one. I love it because it comes with a quick connect plug. Just connect it to your battery and you can quickly connect or disconnect your charger. I charge mine every weekend. Just plug it in and forget it.
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Post by Paladin on Feb 19, 2014 11:06:45 GMT -5
I only connect a charger if I forget to turn off the lights after stopping.
My Savage 650 was my commuter, under 4 miles one way. If the bike starts easy the battery will be recharged in just a few minutes of riding. My Vespa is my shopping cart and usually the runs are under 3 miles between stops.
If you don't ride that much, a standard battery should hold a charge for two weeks, an AGM battery should be able to start the bike after three months.
If a battery is weak, needs a battery tender, it needs replacement.
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Post by rockynv on Feb 19, 2014 13:34:02 GMT -5
How old is the battery? Putting it on a trickle or float charger all the time could mask the fact that the battery is just too old to be considered reliable. You'll find out once it gets to the point that it only has 1 good start in it after a nights charging. Hopefully you won't be too far out of cell phone range when it happens.
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Post by bvance554 on Feb 19, 2014 23:28:09 GMT -5
In the years i've owned my scoot it has never once been on the charger except for when i initially poured the electrolyte in. Even after sitting through winter it fires up. If you need to charge it i would suspect a bad battery or charging system.
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Post by 2wheelfun on Feb 20, 2014 7:14:25 GMT -5
For folks who have to park their bikes in a parking lot, condos/apts. A 2 watt solar panel works well to trickle charge your batt. Mine has alligator clips or a car acc port to hook up to the batt. The panel is no bigger than a loaf of bread in sq area, HF carries them and the price is right.
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Post by tomcat on Feb 20, 2014 11:12:21 GMT -5
I keep a Battery Tender Jr hooked up all the time when not riding, both summer and winter (which has been brutal this year). The trike is kept in an attached non-heated garage for what it's worth. Never have had a battery problem, plenty of cranking power even with the temps ungodly cold, and only starting the trike once a week to keep the juices flowing. I'm a firm believer in keeping the battery charged independently & not relying on the somewhat questionable charging capacity of the onboard system. But that's just me, your mileage may vary.
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Post by UniqueSP on Feb 20, 2014 15:29:12 GMT -5
my scooter starts perfect all the time. Still i put the battery tender on it every week or so for a while to keep the battery in tip top shape. been doing this for about 2 years now on this battery and works amazing. I do sometimes forget to hook it up to the charger and battery runs amazing. starts right up quickly. My dad does the same thing with his Harley. Puts it on the tender every once in a while.
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Post by junkyarddog on Feb 21, 2014 3:53:41 GMT -5
Most bikes, especially scooters, have pretty marginal charging systems. The battery will actually discharge while idling. A car on the other hand has a whopper of a charging system, which will quickly charge a battery, even at idle. With five bikes, I simply cannot ride all of them enough to keep the batteries properly charged. If you only have one, and ride it every day, then it will probably be ok. My personal experience is that batteries don't stay charged as long as they used to (a long time ago) I have had several brand new quality motorcycle/scooter batteries go dead in one month, while they used to last 2-3 months.
Another unrelated but serious issue with letting a bike sit for a long time is fuel system damage due to ethanol gas. I have seen carburetors destroyed by this stuff. If I am not going to ride a bike for a week or more, I drain the float bowl and spray some WD-40 into the carb vent hose to prevent corrosion.
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Post by spunn on Feb 23, 2014 0:58:05 GMT -5
Just bought the JR tender
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Post by UniqueSP on Feb 23, 2014 18:00:15 GMT -5
Just bought the JR tender Awesome!! Great for the price. Just set it and forget it! (Reminds me of that rotisserie oven on tv) lol I have the waterproof one since I charge my scooter outside and it rains sometimes.
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