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Post by DaveC on Jan 26, 2014 22:24:28 GMT -5
I'd pay $500 for a helmet with a built in GPS. Which is probably why the guy is riding a Sportster (vs a Road King, etc) I'll pay $50 for a gps and use my current helmet and forget the distracting fone calls from wifey.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 27, 2014 0:11:33 GMT -5
I do like the rear view camera! It has the potential for so many applications beyond bikes/scooters/motorcycles, such as infantry, police, firefighters, scuba divers, football and hockey players, extreme skiers, even individuals could benefit from a non-obtrusive rear view display perhaps in the brim of a hat. If it works as well as the video demo, and they can get the price point down to $500, I would be very tempted.
I don't like the redundancy of text being flashed on the display and being spoken, I would hope you could turn either off/on easily for your preference based on the situation.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jan 27, 2014 1:50:57 GMT -5
Geez-oh-man! One of the reasons I quit a scooter club was because of stuff like that distracting the riders I was riding with using this kind of stuff. The rider would be so distracted running red lights, stop signs, rear ending someone, and not seeing someone pulling out onto the road will be assured. You ride with a bunch of idiots apparently. If a fighter pilot traveling hundreds of miles per hour can use a HUD to his advantage I think a dude on a scooter with some degree of intelligence might be able to use it responsibly. I'm not sure how some computer letting me know I should turn at the next street would be dangerous. I can see how trying to view a paper map would be. Anyone distracted to the point that he cant pilot a scooter by receiving a bit of information or hearing music, probably shouldn't be riding sorry. If I ever get one I'll be sure to not use it to try to get the high score on Galaga I promise...
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Post by danno on Jan 27, 2014 6:23:13 GMT -5
Calm down Rob. I happen to agree with nulldevice, And I don't consider myself an "idiot"...Keep in mind you've been riding a very long time. Others like myself, this is all pretty new. Right now during this time of learning, I've developed a "KISS" philosophy...."Keep it simple stupid." For example, I only ride on roads that I am familiar with. When the option is available, I'll use back roads rather than the main road.I don't ride in the rain. Hearing music is not, imo, receiving "new information" . When in a car, I've caught myself getting lost in an old song that brought me back memories of my high school days...my mind sometimes wonders..which means I'm not giving full attention to the road.If you're above that, that's great, but please don't call people "idiots" who KISS
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Post by jbjtkbw00 on Jan 27, 2014 7:20:10 GMT -5
Shut Up And Take My Money!
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 27, 2014 7:23:03 GMT -5
I'm sort of in the middle here, both on the helmet itself and concerning null's riding group.
The helmet--the rear view can be very useful in traffic. And the built-in GPS would be excellent--no fiddling with buttons, and no need to look away from the road for the directions. But it also might prove distracting to less-experienced riders. Or even more-experienced riders, if they let their attention wander.
The group--the way I read it, null's club had continuing issues with distracted driving. Which leads me to agree that yes, they were idiots who probably shouldn't be driving anything. But I suppose two wheels are better than four--less likely to injure someone else with their distracted driving. One or two instances of distraction, that I can understand. But a list of four distractions, and the implication that wasn't all--that's the attention span of gnats and, yes, idiots.
>'Kat, who promises not to play Tron lightcycles while wearing that helmet.
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Post by urbanmadness on Jan 27, 2014 9:40:03 GMT -5
Be careful, Scoot, your showing you're age... LOL
If it could be had for 500 bucks, I'd do it. I get lost in a paper sack, so the GPS would be awesome and handlebar mounted GPS just doesn't work too well for me. Don't want the phone calls, but I already have music (Audio books usually, believe it or not) in the helmet. AS it is now, I usually have to pull over to consult the GPS, I just don't like my eyes off the road when i ride.
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Post by jwalz1 on Jan 27, 2014 9:57:14 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if it's at least that much. It's probably more. My moped is $1,550. I'll drop $250 on a helmet for a bike that price but not $1,000+. it's an interesting idea but i think it would annoy me. i don't want my helmet telling me when and where to turn. I thought it would annoy me, but I have a HUD and nav on my new ride (car) and it is awesome. Gonna try a new restaurant? Just press a button and say "navigate to 4827 4th street, Minneapolis MN" Bing, bang, boom....voice directions and nav queues on the windshield. I don't own a cell phone so I don't care about phone calls, and really don't want one in traffic on a scooter. But I agree that the cost of this is going to be ridiculous. I suppose the rear view is kind of cool but my mirrors are pretty good and I watch them relentlessly. It seems like it is for the guy who has a bunch of cash and like to show off the coolest toys. I would be more interested in a couple helmets with an reasonable two way communications setup for rides with a friend. A couple of nice fm walkies can be had for $20 at Menards, but if you want that built into a helmet, the price goes up ten fold. Ridiculous.
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Post by jwalz1 on Jan 27, 2014 9:57:54 GMT -5
deleted, double post.
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Post by nulldevice on Jan 27, 2014 14:23:35 GMT -5
Geez-oh-man! One of the reasons I quit a scooter club was because of stuff like that distracting the riders I was riding with using this kind of stuff. The rider would be so distracted running red lights, stop signs, rear ending someone, and not seeing someone pulling out onto the road will be assured. You ride with a bunch of idiots apparently. If a fighter pilot traveling hundreds of miles per hour can use a HUD to his advantage I think a dude on a scooter with some degree of intelligence might be able to use it responsibly. I'm not sure how some computer letting me know I should turn at the next street would be dangerous. I can see how trying to view a paper map would be. Anyone distracted to the point that he cant pilot a scooter by receiving a bit of information or hearing music, probably shouldn't be riding sorry. If I ever get one I'll be sure to not use it to try to get the high score on Galaga I promise... The group was not that bad, but at the time the leadership was doing nothing about the problem riders and the membership was gearing up with electronic toys for the ride as well. This helmet gives more than a "bit" of information while playing music, and none of it has anything to do with the immediate information that keeps the rider undamaged and alive, like pot holes, fresh road kill, sand, gravel, water, oil on the pavement, cross traffic, dog or deer on an intercept course, curve sharpness, camber of curve, speed and direction of vehicles in your vicinity . . . It is an expensive, distracting toy.
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Post by 2wheelfun on Jan 27, 2014 14:47:18 GMT -5
I think that helmet is a disaster waiting to happen. On a bike you need all your senses to stay safe and hearing is right near the top.............nice helmet though.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 27, 2014 17:58:36 GMT -5
This helmet gives more than a "bit" of information while playing music, and none of it has anything to do with the immediate information that keeps the rider undamaged and alive, like pot holes, fresh road kill, sand, gravel, water, oil on the pavement, cross traffic, dog or deer on an intercept course, curve sharpness, camber of curve, speed and direction of vehicles in your vicinity . . . It is an expensive, distracting toy. That would be a very cool "app" to have on a HUD! One that uses orientation sensors together with speed to warn if you are reaching an unstable stance, this could be achieve with a bluetooth connection to a smartphone. OSR may be able to detect and warn against some road hazards like potholes and some other obstructions/safety-hazards, as well as giving an indicator of other vehicle's speed and direction, but that would require some heavy processing power more suitable to an on-the-bike installation with a bluetooth connection to the HUD, and I doubt a smartphone has enough power, so your talking more along the lines of a dedicated solution there.
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Post by pmatulew on Jan 27, 2014 18:46:09 GMT -5
Interesting concept. What happens to the display when you crack your visor open for some air? What happens a year or two later when your GPS maps are out of date? Rear view camera is cute but might be distracting.
When I update again I'm more likely to go for a new hat with built in sunshades rather than something like this. I already have a set of Scala G9's. No problem bluetoothing your phone for GPS or voice or music. I'm on two wheels traveling for work occasionally and being able to answer a call and carry on a conversation while in motion is more handy than it might first appear.
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