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Post by kxj5906 on Oct 28, 2013 22:28:14 GMT -5
Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone had suggestions. I am trying to make this 1989 scooter start. I know its probably 3 things: a bad spark plug, a bad carburator, or a bad valve adjustment. Could a clogged fuel valve also be the case? It will not start, and I do not know how to get to the carburator to clean it and make a valve adjustment. The guy sent me these pictures. Does anyone know about these older models and how to make them start? The scooter has about 8,000 miles on it. EDIT: He also told me "When you step on the brake, the safety switch clicks off the motor. If you don't step on the brake the scooter won't start."
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Post by alleyoop on Oct 28, 2013 22:47:45 GMT -5
The pictures did not come through, BUT you will have to be able to get at the Spark Plug, Carb and Valves no 2 ways around that sorry. But if your willing to learn and get your hands dirty we can take you step by step through everything to get it running IF the motor is good that is. You will need a few tools if you already do not have them. Alleyoop
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Post by skuttadawg on Oct 28, 2013 23:25:00 GMT -5
Well did it used to run ? Remove the sparkplug , stick it back into the boot ( the wire ) make sure to lay the tip against the engine or frame so its grounded and hit the starter button to see if it fires . Spark will be weak since the starter does not spin as fast as the engine does when it is running . Yes all have a safety switch that requires a brake lever to be pulled in in order for the starter to work . Even back in the 80s my Honda mopeds I had to do that . If the brake light switch goes out you would have to use the other lever until you replaced the switch if it went out . Does it have compression ? Quick simple test is to push down the kickstarter by hand to get a rough idea . Harbor Freight has a compression tester with a gauge that reads in PSI for 20 dollars . I have gotten bad gas and it caused my perfectly running scooter to not start the next day after getting bad gas . I bought a manual siphon pump for 5 bucks to drain the tank and drained the bowl on the carb with the drain plug removed . Poured if gas from a trusted source and tada it was new again . I was out doing a long ride in the country and I was too far out to chance it to one of my gas sources . Here is a scooter service manual www.chinesescooterreference.com/pdf/50_150cc_gy6_shop_manual.pdf you may need Adobe Acrobat Reader of the browser plugin . Both are free www.adobe.com look on bottom right corner and watch out they try to sneak in Macafee crapware ( I hate Macafee software products ) or Google Chrome . Many FYI scooter tips scootdawg.proboards.com/thread/21878Here is a valve adjustment guide www.scooterforumonline.com/index.php/topic,1720.0.html All 4Ts will need it done at least once with some needing it out of the crate . Any auto parts store you can get a valve feeler gauge for 3 dollars . These have the tip bent so it fits in there where standard feeler gauges are flat blades . I bought the Haynes Chinese Scooter repair manual from Amazon for 6 dollars since it was used . Generally its 25 on the average new there or from one of the sponsors here
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Post by urbanmadness on Oct 29, 2013 0:58:20 GMT -5
do you know how long it has been since it ran? And what model is it? If it has a foot brake, it sounds like an old Helix. If that is the case, maybe the kick stand safety switch and the brake switch are swapped.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 29, 2013 4:14:25 GMT -5
Could be a 2 stroke Vespa too. What is the make and model of the scooter. Some of the 2 strokes have a sensor on the oil injector tank that will also prevent them from running if the oil level gets too low.
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Post by kxj5906 on Oct 29, 2013 12:26:02 GMT -5
It's a Honda Elite 150cc 1989 scooter. Can you guys see the photos I attached?
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Post by pmatulew on Oct 29, 2013 17:13:00 GMT -5
No pictures. Just empty boxes.
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Post by oldscootertrash on Dec 13, 2013 1:53:10 GMT -5
I have a 89 elite 80 and do not forget about the auto choke they are known to fail get them on eBay for cheap
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