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Post by rockynv on Oct 15, 2013 4:23:03 GMT -5
Sorry I am getting my Hunter and Heritage crossed.
Lance Vintage = Heritage while Lance GS R = Hunter.
Either way the bikes not right and the person who sold it had to have known that he was cheating someone if he did not declare the damages.
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Post by creaseuk on Oct 15, 2013 10:36:14 GMT -5
Without the box against the frame, the picture was so busy with all the junk in my garage. After much head scratching (and removing of bodywork AGAIN ), I concluded that the problem seems to be associated with the top of the down tube. It just looks a little crooked. There is absolutely no other signs of accident damage. Really, NOTHING. If it is accident damage (which I suspect) , it was some miraculous shunt. The neighbor across the street has a 'puller' with chains. He says we can work to straighten it tonight , well you can't make it worse! As for the previous owner - I made an offer on the scooter (ridiculously cheap) based on the - week old- DMV receipt that came along with it for $238!! Being California, I didn't really question it... After reading the breakdown, it appears $38 was for registration, while $200 was to pay off previous DUI fines!! As a cautionary tale to those out there - I bought it after making an offer without seeing it, I never met the Owner, and I picked it up in the dark !! Thanks to all of you, on the forum, who have helped me, it will be on the road again soon. I'm really happy with what I have achieved so far, I'm already considering another..
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Post by pmatulew on Oct 15, 2013 11:32:09 GMT -5
That's probably the most important and most highly stressed joint in the whole chassis. Be very careful how you attempt repairs.
Maybe less risky to try tweaking near the center of the downtube rather than up near the head joint.
If anything doesn't go right or there is any shadow of a doubt, abort and take it to a metal fabricator for assistance. The last thing you want to worry about is having that front end come apart at an inopportune moment.
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Post by shalomdawg on Oct 15, 2013 20:10:17 GMT -5
howdy, lol, that looks like a piston that would cause a slight lowering of the compression. you could use a really long nosed spark plug without having interferance problems
lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken
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Post by creaseuk on Oct 15, 2013 20:20:03 GMT -5
howdy, lol, that looks like a piston that would cause a slight lowering of the compression. you could use a really long nosed spark plug without having interferance problems lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken Thanks - More than the holed piston look at the gunk in the engine...
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Post by creaseuk on Oct 15, 2013 20:32:11 GMT -5
Its Fixed !! Less than 5 minutes with that bad boy. Not a mark or kink in sight.. As soon as the chain tightened, the headstock just submitted and popped back into place.. Interestingly, the neighbor said the hydraulic tool was relatively inexpensive from Harbor Freight and has paid for itself ten fold.. I'd never have believed it could be fixed so easily... Thanks all - now you know accident damage may not manifest itself readily on your scoot.. The picture is really crap 'cause the whole job was quicker than the time it took to find my camera
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Post by alleyoop on Oct 15, 2013 20:36:13 GMT -5
Yep that is what I thought happened, it was run into something hard and just the front wheel hit but bent the top part of the frame that holds the Tree out toward the front . Alleyoop
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Post by pmatulew on Oct 16, 2013 5:30:53 GMT -5
Excellent! Carry on.
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Post by PCBGY6 on Oct 16, 2013 10:33:27 GMT -5
Glad to see that you were able to get it fixed. I would go over it with a fine tooth comb looking for cracks though. Putting pressure on the frame may weaken it at some other point and at will be the welds. Just thinking safety.
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Post by prodigit on Oct 17, 2013 11:56:27 GMT -5
Usually when that happens, the fork at that point might be weakened. I'd still be careful braking fast on the front...
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Post by rockynv on Oct 18, 2013 15:31:55 GMT -5
Hard braking on a rough road can pop it back which is why many insurance carriers will total out even new bikes just off the showroom floor with this kind of damage.
How much is a new hunter frame anyway?
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Post by oldchopperguy on Oct 20, 2013 23:23:32 GMT -5
Glad it's fixed!
Do CAREFULLY inspect the entire fork/crown, etc. though. The Chinese locomotive-builders have a simple method: they paint a suspected (or high-stress area) with a brittle red lacquer. Even the SLIGHTEST crack surfacing will show through the hard paint! If you don't have magna-flux or X-ray equipment, ya gotta get "creative"...
That's why the Chinese steam locomotives have pretty RED wheels... Not for bling, but for simple "crack-inspections".
You're probably good to go, but just be extra-careful whenever you bend/re-bend any part of the front end of a bike.
Ride safe!
Leo in Texas
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Post by spandi on Oct 27, 2013 1:25:17 GMT -5
Glad it's fixed!
Do CAREFULLY inspect the entire fork/crown, etc. though. The Chinese locomotive-builders have a simple method: they paint a suspected (or high-stress area) with a brittle red lacquer. Even the SLIGHTEST crack surfacing will show through the hard paint! If you don't have magna-flux or X-ray equipment, ya gotta get "creative"... That's why the Chinese steam locomotives have pretty RED wheels... Not for bling, but for simple "crack-inspections". You're probably good to go, but just be extra-careful whenever you bend/re-bend any part of the front end of a bike. Ride safe!Leo in Texas No Leo. The wheels are RED cause they follow the party line
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