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Post by danno on Aug 18, 2013 7:20:30 GMT -5
Is it just here where I live or do others also experience this? When I'm in a turn lane only lane, it doesn't turn green. Apparently it's activated by the weight of a car. No weight of car, it will remain red. I suppose between me and the bike we ain't heavy enough to make it turn green...Has anyone else experienced this? What have you done?  |
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Post by rockynv on Aug 18, 2013 7:50:31 GMT -5
Is it just here where I live or do others also experience this? When I'm in a turn lane only lane, it doesn't turn green. Apparently it's activated by the weight of a car. No weight of car, it will remain red. I suppose between me and the bike we ain't heavy enough to make it turn green...Has anyone else experienced this? What have you done? While there are some old style lights that work using a weight sensor pad under the pavement most use an electrical coil to sense a vehicle. Getting centered on the pad and sometimes upping the idle a bit can help. Sometimes if you call the traffic signal department they will adjust the sensitivity of the sensor a bit higher to detect motorbikes. |
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Post by americanpsycho on Aug 18, 2013 8:44:54 GMT -5
Get a Greenlight Trigger. Problem solved.
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 18, 2013 9:43:00 GMT -5
Induction loops in the road arent effected by the little metal of a scooter or motorcycle.
Some lights may trigger with a flashing headlight (possibly illegal if you have oncoming traffic).
I try to make use right turns and U-turns if needed.
Also, some states allow a bike, scooter, motorcycle to go on red
Wisconsin has a law on the books since 2006 that includes :
"The law also allows motorcyclists to proceed through a vehicle-actuated red light after 45 seconds when the signal fails to recognize the motorcycle"
Basically if you wait at ANY red light more than 45 seconds, if the intersection is clear, it is OK to proceed thru the intersection (Red Light) with caution. I've talked to some LEO friends & all have confirmed the law's validity .
I actually used this a week ago. Two of us at a light - my scooter and a Shadow 750 were unable to trigger the light, and there wasn't enough oncoming traffic or vehicles behind to get it to trip. We finally decided there had been a large enough gap and no vehicles approaching.
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Post by scootnwinn on Aug 18, 2013 10:57:50 GMT -5
I general weave over the area of the loop and land right on one of the lines triggers most. If it doesn't I back up diagonally and that triggers the rest
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Post by tmurphy on Aug 18, 2013 11:13:58 GMT -5
I find that the light usually changes for me if I get my engine directly over a sensor wire and rev my engine several times.
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 18, 2013 13:07:34 GMT -5
They paint lines, or in the case here, all of the lines and arrows and words are inlaid into the road and painted.
I said before: How about they mark the sweet spot for two wheelers?
Once a road is repaved, you cannot see where the lines are as you could before.
I installed a car wash that used loops to activate it, but the factory supplied loops were small, and even fastened to the top of the concrete floor, a heavy floor jack had trouble activating the wash no matter what the sensitivity was set at.. We had a guy come in and cut the grooves in the floor about a foot deep and we made a loop about 4 feet across and 8 feet long. Now we had a loop that could be used by the lowest cars up to the most lifted truck that would fit in the bay.
Over where I used to live, there was a left turn with two visible loops. One car stopped up at the front of the lane would not trip the light for a green arrow. Stopping on the first loop, about two car lengths back from the front - with no other cars in the lane would trip the light every time - in a car. I never tried on a scooter. The roads have been resurfaced and the medians all redone, so where are the loops now?
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Post by cookietin on Aug 18, 2013 13:59:22 GMT -5
The state of Utah is experimenting with this very problem. Bikes, motorcycles can turn left on red light under new law... www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=25189591A law that would allow motorcycles and bicycles to turn left on a red light went into affect Wednesday. The law was created after cyclists complained that were often stuck at red lights because their bikes do not weigh enough to be picked up by the light's sensor. The law requires that cyclists wait  seconds at a red light before checking the intersection and proceeding with a left-hand turn. The law will only be effective for one year. If all goes well during the trial period, Anderson said he will have to bring it back at next year's legislative session to make the law a life long change. Other states around the country have this same type of legislation in place, and Anderson says that there have been no significant problems with it. |
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Post by danno on Aug 18, 2013 16:07:11 GMT -5
Thank you all for your responses. I've done a little surfing on this topic and found this solution... It's called Light Night $13.  isn't a bad price at all. During my surfing i also came across [url=American Motorcyclist Association ]this site.[/url] It was new to me, perhaps not to many of you long time riders. It's a guide to state by state laws regarding motorcycles. If you're going on a long trip or just want to know the laws in your own state, it might be worth checking out. American Motorcyclist Association
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 18, 2013 17:06:58 GMT -5
A note about the steel on one of my scooters: The Znen has the gas tank - steel - mounted under the floor, but still not enough to trip the light.
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Post by rockynv on Aug 19, 2013 12:20:12 GMT -5
Some states allow you to go through after the light cycles twice without the left turn arrow activating.
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 19, 2013 14:49:17 GMT -5
Some states allow you to go through after the light cycles twice without the left turn arrow activating. Twice is a long time. I know I've watched the clock on lights in the car, and seen more than 2 minutes before my lane got to go again. |
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Post by rockynv on Aug 19, 2013 20:03:34 GMT -5
It is not fun especially when the feels like temp is over 120 degrees.
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seconds at a red light before checking the intersection and proceeding with a left-hand turn.
isn't a bad price at all.