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Post by loganhes on Aug 5, 2013 19:27:57 GMT -5
Hello All,
My 2011 Kymco Super 8 has 4,800 + miles on it and the belt has never been changed. So this weekend I decided to take a look at the belt and see what condition it was in. Well it looked like it was brand new. I compared the thickness to a new belt and it was exactly the same. There was no fraying either. So my question is, should I still change the belt thinking that because of the miles that it might be weakened even though it looks good? Can heat weaken the belt without showing signs? My scoot still runs like new but I can't help thinking that it is time for a belt change. My past 2 scooters (both Roketa's) went through belts a lot quicker. Any thoughts on the average life of a belt? All thoughts and opinions are appreciated.
--Jim
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Post by geh3333 on Aug 5, 2013 19:55:06 GMT -5
this is pretty much your call , if everthing seems good and there are no problems it is prob ok to run it longer. i would buy a new one put it on and use the old one as a spare .leave the old one in the scoot incase u need it.
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Post by skuttadawg on Aug 5, 2013 22:09:42 GMT -5
You have gotten mote miles out of yours than many do on the 50s . Get a new Gates or Bando belt ASAP and keep the old as a spare . Belts usally have wear signs like teeth missing and fraid cords as well as thinner too . It is best to change it BEFORE is breaks as you could wreck with the rear wheel locked up , no fun to push it home , and a belt broken while riding can and has damaged the pulleys . I changed the belt on my 2T at 4,400 miles even though it still looks great and could get 2,000 more miles perhaps . Kevlar belts are stiffer , have vibration and known to damage parts when they break . So I would get a nonKevlar belt . I got one and it is no where as smooth as my stock Gates belt was . I bought a Bando 788 17 28 which many longcase 2Ts use .
My Echarm I got 12,000 miles out of it and could have gotten 1,000 more but it is not worth the risk and hassle of having to change it on the roadside instead at home
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Post by brandjur on Aug 5, 2013 22:54:51 GMT -5
Sounds like you have a Bando belt. I have an original Bando on my Sym Fiddle II and it has over 5700 miles on it. It has so much more life left. That being said, maybe next year I will change the belt as preventative. That's part of buying a higher quality scooter, it comes with the quality parts.
Now, on my chinese 50cc based scooter, I did change the chinese belt with a Gates.
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Post by skuttadawg on Aug 6, 2013 1:25:41 GMT -5
I bought Bandos for both scooters and darn they had a vibration that they stock belts did not . My dealer told me Bando makes belts for Honda and CFMoto and I bought it since he said it was the same and cheaper . Next time it will be a CFMoto ( brand of my scooter ) . My 2T had a Gates which is good but I opted for Bandos since they are made in Japan instead of China .
Also replace your tires and brake pads or shoes BEFORE they are worn all the way down too .
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Post by SylvreKat on Aug 6, 2013 5:52:36 GMT -5
How hard is it to get to the belt to check it?
If it's pretty easy, I'd keep using that belt, but have a new one ready. And keep checking it every few hundred miles. Or before any long trips. As long as it looks good with no wear or damage, I see no reason to change it.
>'Kat
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Post by loganhes on Aug 6, 2013 10:54:14 GMT -5
How hard is it to get to the belt to check it? If it's pretty easy, I'd keep using that belt, but have a new one ready. And keep checking it every few hundred miles. Or before any long trips. As long as it looks good with no wear or damage, I see no reason to change it. >'Kat SylvreKat, To answer your question, it is very easy for me to get to the belt to check it. I can get my CVT cover off in less than 10 minutes. I have a new belt ready to go. To answer brandjur, yes the original belt is a Bando and so is the replacement that I have. --Jim |
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Post by loganhes on Aug 6, 2013 11:01:58 GMT -5
it seems like everything on my scoot was built to last. I have yet to adjust the valve clearance at all. Every time I check it, it is still dead on...the only things I have replaced are the spark plug (iridium) and the coil (to a awesome high performance one that Scooter Elements sells)
--Jim
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Post by rockynv on Aug 6, 2013 12:03:53 GMT -5
What is the reccomended service limit that Kymco sets for the belt? Bikes like Aprilia, Piaggio, Kymco and Sym can have up to a 12,000 mile service limit on the OEM belts.
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Post by prodigit on Aug 6, 2013 21:31:07 GMT -5
Personally I would order a new belt, but keep riding the original one, and inspect it at 6k, 7k and 8k miles.
Usually belts last a long time, and you'll get hints that your scooter's top speed is lower, and sometimes hear/feel the belt slipping before it actually would break.
Most belts don't break without warning, unless you're putting a BBK on them and tune the heck out of those engines, or put a performance variator that puts too much pressure on the belt.
Chances are your new belt is not fitting perfectly fine, and you might need to order a slightly different size for optimal tuning.
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Post by lhumpolick on Aug 10, 2013 23:43:23 GMT -5
My first belt got to 7000 miles then I was not taking any more chances I replace it with the gates power link and new 13.5 weights. When I pick up this 2004 Vento 150 I modified the cover using a dermal tool I first cut a hole on the back part covering the clutch drum then used mental screen and JB weld to cover the hole on the back side then used flexsteel to finch the job. Bear in mind one of the biggest reason belts brake is because of heat this mod helps keep that area nice and cool. I do this on all my scooters I saw this years ago on scootdawg
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