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Post by justguy1 on Jul 1, 2013 10:34:08 GMT -5
Ok if it is a fused or melted wire, its not in the cluster of wires up front.. I have checked all those wires.. nothing looks burned or touching another wire. I will remove the battery tonight and see if if I can see where the ground is and if it came lose. If not then I guess its taking it all apart or bringing it to the local scooter dealer.. one or the other.. But either way I hope this gets fixed.. just glad were making progress...
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Post by spandi on Jul 1, 2013 11:41:32 GMT -5
I know this is a long shot. (and pardon me if someone has already brought this up) but is there a computer chip in your circuitry? (I was thinking maybe it got fried.)
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Post by justguy1 on Jul 1, 2013 17:45:45 GMT -5
 This is the wiring platform we should be using.. its a helix.. my cf moto is a clone of this helix . only thing I see different is the fuse box.. they have an additional fuse for the clock and acc.. not sure why I don't since I have a clock too.. so that's odd. But im gonna check the way the fuses are lined here.. But this should be what we are following.. |
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Post by JR on Jul 1, 2013 20:29:16 GMT -5
No sir the Helix is a Honda scooter and your Fashion is a clone of that by CF Moto and CfMoto has a good Fashion diagram and so far it's been right on every wire, a little confusing sometimes but still the correct diagram. Here is the Fashion diagram in PDF from my library and is the exact diagram on Doc also. www.jr-richscooterdoc.com/WD_Cfmoto_Fashion_diagram.pdfI know the Helix scooter and the reason some say that it is the same is because of the engine. So if you want to confuse things further and use the Helix diagram then good luck, I know it doesn't match. Also there are 4 different wiring diagrams for the Helix Year 86 Year 86 again Year 87 to 91 Year 91 and after. All four are slightly different. Justguy1 you seem to think that you are going to just find something worn such as a fuse or such? It doesn't matter how the fuses are lined if the are good the feed current if the current is there. It all boils down to this, if you're willing to work further and trace things out you'll come upon what is wrong or what you did but if you're not willing to get stuff out of the way and do the work then you can't get to the wires, it's called welcome to the world of plastic covering up all the working components including the wiring. You seem to have a fear of taking the plastics off, wish there were another way and even if your scooter could use the Helix diagram you would still have to strip it. I'm sorry but that's the way it is?  When you decide to open it up let me know. JR |
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Post by JR on Jul 2, 2013 7:09:32 GMT -5
Justguy1 it seems you don't know how to read a diagram either, the fashion diagram has all the fuses listed too "if" you know how to read the diagram? scooterdoc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=250cc&action=display&thread=8106&page=7To answer your question of what diagram he uses look at one of your old threads: scooterdoc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=250cc&action=display&thread=7886In his answer to you he has pointed out to you one of the fuses in a section of the "Fashion" diagram not the Helix diagram. I'm sorry that this has been so tough for you but I'll re-interate there is no fuse problem, no quick and easy fix for you on this scooter. You've either accidently broke or burnt up something when you installed the battery disconnect switch on the wrong leg of your scooter. Even if you could use the Helix diagram that part of the equation isn't going away. I know this isn't what you want to hear but I'm sorry that is the way it is and with the scooter plastics on, you are in the blind as to where the problem is, no if's and's and but's about it. JR |
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Post by richardthescooter1 on Jul 2, 2013 7:55:09 GMT -5
I've had my plastic off more times then I can count, don't be afraid, take pic's as you go so you know where everything goes back together  |
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Post by justguy1 on Jul 2, 2013 14:08:56 GMT -5
Well I guess my concern is I want to make sure you know what your talking about. You have been confusing me with some of your post.
You tell me that my green/white is the HORN, but yet according to MY SCOOTER as well as the HELIX diagram BOTH show the green/white is a 5 amp. and is the fuel/starter/charge...
So yeah that's a bit confusing... IM NOT here for a pissing contest between you and Rich.. thought I made that a little clear in some of my beginning post.. I came here for help from some knowledgeable guys.. Whethe it's you ( who Alley told me is very good in electrics) or anyone else for that matter. IF not then I just take it somewhere.
I work long hours during the week and don't have time to be taking the scooter all apart and putting it back together if I didn't need to. Which was my point.. it wasn't about avoiding it.. it was making sure that it was necessary to do. If not would do it another way....
I think at this point.. I will go back to scooter doc try from there if not take it over to the local cf moto dealer and have them look at it..
You can close this thread out...
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Post by richardthescooter1 on Jul 2, 2013 14:41:38 GMT -5
good luck
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Post by JR on Jul 2, 2013 23:08:33 GMT -5
Well I guess my concern is I want to make sure you know what your talking about. You have been confusing me with some of your post. You tell me that my green/white is the HORN, but yet according to MY SCOOTER as well as the HELIX diagram BOTH show the green/white is a 5 amp. and is the fuel/starter/charge... So yeah that's a bit confusing... IM NOT here for a pissing contest between you and Rich.. thought I made that a little clear in some of my beginning post.. I came here for help from some knowledgeable guys.. Whethe it's you ( who Alley told me is very good in electrics) or anyone else for that matter. IF not then I just take it somewhere. I work long hours during the week and don't have time to be taking the scooter all apart and putting it back together if I didn't need to. Which was my point.. it wasn't about avoiding it.. it was making sure that it was necessary to do. If not would do it another way.... I think at this point.. I will go back to scooter doc try from there if not take it over to the local cf moto dealer and have them look at it.. You can close this thread out...
Son several people from Doc sent you here to ask me how to fix your scooter and I've been an electrician for over 40 years and you got the nerve to say you who are confused want to make sure I know what I'm doing? Incredible! IM NOT here for a pissing contest between you and Rich.. thought I made that a little clear in some of my beginning postWhat you made clear is you have been at Doc with numerous threads about how to fix your scooter , it's still not right and what you want to call a pissing match is simply somewhere here telling you that someone else is wrong and then you run back to the same place you got the wrong information and get more. You don't seem to like the truth? I work long hours during the week and don't have time to be taking the scooter all apart and putting it back together if I didn't need to.OK so if you'll notice I have been up late in the night answering and helping you with this problem, remember I was here minding my own business and "you" asked for help, my time is just as valuable as yours and I have freely give mine and you want to tell me what I should be using and you "told" me up front what you did or didn't want? You're kidding right? You tell me that my green/white is the HORN, but yet according to MY SCOOTER as well as the HELIX diagram BOTH show the green/white is a 5 amp. and is the fuel/starter/charge... So welcome to the world of Chinese scooters, it's labeled one way and the diagram/s another and BTW the Fashion diagram does show exactly what I listed on the plug .......and three 10A fuses and one 5A fuse so who or what is right? A electrician that knows Chinese ways uses his training and knowledge to work things out when things are confusing and helping people confused like you. I was working you through a step by step process using common electrical principals and each one of my tests to confirm what wire was what was correct yet you were confused. OK confused people ask those who are not confused what to do and I was doing it in a simple way to not confuse you any more and not giving you a lesson on how to use a volt meter which I can do so you would even be confused more.  % of the people in the world that know how to and understand the way to properly use a multimeter know how to fix things like this on a scooter and find out what's wrong, it's apparent you don't know . Remember you had a working scooter one day and decided to put a battery disconnect switch in and you followed another's advice which was/is wrong and now your scooter doesn't work right, you and you alone chose to do this and now you question my advice? Add to the equation that your electrical knowledge is little to none and you can't tell one wire color from another because of a health issue and it's nearly impossible to help you, not my fault. Jump from one forum to another and hoping for the quick fix, not going to happen. I will go back to scooter doc try from there if not take it over to the local cf moto dealer and have them look at it..
You can close this thread out... That's a good idea and BTW if you notice all the tests that Rich is doing, notice how he has the scooter stripped and one could do this easily maybe one or two pieces a day even with working long hours, it's not rocket science. I don't mind helping anyone any time and have helped many but I'm not going to be lectured to in the way I help, you can take it or leave it and I'll wish you well. Also I said I wouldn't give up and I haven't you did at least here. Consider this thread closed and locked. JR |
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% of the people in the world that know how to and understand the way to properly use a multimeter know how to fix things like this on a scooter and find out what's wrong, it's apparent you don't know .