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by: justinbabcock1125 - Apr 15, 2013 17:34:15 GMT -5
Post by justinbabcock1125 on Apr 15, 2013 17:34:15 GMT -5
Ok here we go i seen on youtube i could pull my plug pack ropein the hole to stop my motorfrom turning over while i remove the varatoir nut to remove the washer.... Well i packed in the rope an tried removing the nut the motor turned over still after a bit of pressure. So i figured it wasnt going to work i removed the rope turned over my motor to clear any thing that would be inside. put every thing back together an now it wont start....50cctaotao atm 2012 model...help what did i do to my ped?
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Post by devo344a on Apr 15, 2013 17:37:32 GMT -5
Might have gotten a piece of the rope in a valve it doesnt take much
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Post by Moat on Apr 15, 2013 20:18:06 GMT -5
Or bent the connecting rod/cracked the piston.
The "rope trick" is a reasonably safe way to hold valves in place to allow removing the spring keepers/springs/seals/etc. without having to remove the cylinder head - it's not intended as a means to hold the crankshaft in place in order to remove the variator nut, as the break-free torque can be high enough to damage downstream components (piston/rod/bearings/crankpin-flywheel alignment).
A compression/leakdown test is in order.
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 15, 2013 20:24:02 GMT -5
Best to use an pneumatic (compressed air ) impact driver . Plenty of videos on You Tube . May have to take apart to really inspect if you damaged it
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by: justinbabcock1125 - Apr 15, 2013 22:45:52 GMT -5
Post by justinbabcock1125 on Apr 15, 2013 22:45:52 GMT -5
I hit it with a impact with 145lbs an i didnt budge so i tried enougher method i seen online (rope)...i still have compression so i havent started crying yet)......
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by: justinbabcock1125 - Apr 15, 2013 22:50:34 GMT -5
Post by justinbabcock1125 on Apr 15, 2013 22:50:34 GMT -5
Theres no grinding noises either as i would have expected to here if there was rod or crank damage. How would i inspect my valves....take off cover an spray them with compressed air?
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Post by skuttadawg on Apr 15, 2013 22:59:11 GMT -5
Liquid Wrench has helped me get stuck bolts loose . Should be valve adjusting videos on You Tube . You measure the clearances with the engine cold . It is easy to bump a wire loose like a ground so double check the simple things often over looked
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by: justinbabcock1125 - Apr 15, 2013 23:55:12 GMT -5
Post by justinbabcock1125 on Apr 15, 2013 23:55:12 GMT -5
Everything is factory on this moped motor wise it has a cvk carb aftermarket orange cdi box an a aftermark air filter ngk plug an a moded exhaust besides theses small mods its all factory lasti bought it last year just before winter an started it regularly to keep it in shape but now it warming up i feel it needed to go faster but now its not going anywere
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Post by prodigit on Apr 16, 2013 0:00:27 GMT -5
lol!  The only thing you should have done is use the brake to prevent the wheel from rolling. Taking out the spark plug actually causes the engine to move more freely. |
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by: justinbabcock1125 - Apr 16, 2013 1:16:03 GMT -5
Post by justinbabcock1125 on Apr 16, 2013 1:16:03 GMT -5
No this nut is really on there i decided id buy the locker tool if in fact i can get t started again... Fyi i tested compression with finger in the plug hole trick felt pressure pushing on my finger a fair amount i also made sure i was getting gas an spark still but it deffently dont sound right when it cranks over no grinding noises like i said before.....i took off the remaining body plastics just now an plan on checking the valves tomorrow ill look for any debre of the rope but rope is intac....still needing help tho seeming its now my only means off transportion...an the brake has no impact on the variator nut...
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 16, 2013 1:59:26 GMT -5
idk if this info will help you but i found this yesterday on another forum:
i've never worked on scooters before so i don't know if this info has any value but another member quoted those posts with a "+1". so it appears to have value to someone. good luck!
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by: justinbabcock1125 - Apr 16, 2013 12:34:46 GMT -5
Post by justinbabcock1125 on Apr 16, 2013 12:34:46 GMT -5
Got my valve cover off now my top valve is really loose an my bottom one doesn't wiggle at all ill feeler gauge them both at .oo4 after i go get a Gauge later an update then
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by: justinbabcock1125 - Apr 16, 2013 16:47:11 GMT -5
Post by justinbabcock1125 on Apr 16, 2013 16:47:11 GMT -5
Set my valves both at 004 still no start motor cranks over still just no stsrt im guess ill check rods an piston head nrxt.....
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Post by bfinny on Apr 16, 2013 19:39:08 GMT -5
just wondering your putting the motor at top dead center before adjusting the valves right?if its got fuel spark and compression is should crank maybe not run right but something get a cheap compression tester find out what your really putting out. what color is the spark and whats the gap set at? did you ever get the variator apart and why?
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 16, 2013 20:32:42 GMT -5
I was going to ask the same question It appears he just took off the valve cover and adjusted the valves where they sat. JUSTIN, 1. Take the Valve cover off. 2. Then by HAND using the VARIATOR turn it COUNTER CLOCKWISE until the CAM SPROCKET is aligned like in the PICTURE. THEN you can adjust both valves to .004 inchs. Alleyoop  |
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