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Post by w650 on Jun 19, 2017 8:28:44 GMT -5
8,000 miles from a ten inch tire? I have 6,000 on my 150cc rear tire right now and and it's bald. My best mileage on a scooter rear tire was from a $70 Bridgestone ML-16 on the Fashion @ 6,300. Tires today suck. My OEM tire on my 1979 Kawasaki went 19,000 and I regularly got 14,000 from a rear tire no matter the brand. Fronts lasted 35,000 usually. NOT TODAY! My bikes blow through rears in 8,000 and fronts at 12,000. My 2000 W650 used the rear OEM by 6,000 and the front at 8,000. I ride like an old lady and the temperatures here rarely exceed ninety degrees. BTW. My front 10 inch tire on the 150cc is nine years old, has 9,700 and looks just fine. The rear OEM only lasted 3,000. Maybe the front has age hardened but it's not dry rotting. I'll keep it on there until it balds out in another 10 years or so. If I have to plug it, well so be it.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jun 20, 2017 6:15:52 GMT -5
That (the squealing) speaks to a car horribly out of alignment and with more problems than just cheap tires on it. Its even possible the tire dealer was a shady one and sold you old out of date tires that were cheap because he picked them up from a lot sent to be recycled.... I'm pretty sure it wasn't alignment 'cause I could feel the slipping as I turned. I remember it startled the heck outta me first few times 'cause I hadn't realized I was going so fast. Then I started paying attention to my speed. I *wasn't* going that fast. ***** As for being shady, it was one of those little private-owned gas stations that did tuneups and tires and all sorts of stuff. Mom knew the guy, he had been in my brother's hs class. So I don't think he would on-purpose do something bad. But who knows, maybe the tires sat around in the sun for a long while and went bad? All I know for sure is those tires cost me a car. And I won't cheap out on tires ever again. >'Kat
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Post by w650 on Jun 20, 2017 13:27:06 GMT -5
I believe you Kat. I've had some un-sticky tires on my cars over the years. They howled like a banshee on cloverleafs. The original OEM tires on my '72 Toyota were hazardous in the rain. They didn't stick at all and hydroplaned in the wet. Everybody has had at least one set of tires that were hard as rocks.
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jun 21, 2017 5:11:29 GMT -5
8,000 miles from a ten inch tire? I have 6,000 on my 150cc rear tire right now and and it's bald. My best mileage on a scooter rear tire was from a $70 Bridgestone ML-16 on the Fashion @ 6,300. Tires today suck. My OEM tire on my 1979 Kawasaki went 19,000 and I regularly got 14,000 from a rear tire no matter the brand. Fronts lasted 35,000 usually. NOT TODAY! My bikes blow through rears in 8,000 and fronts at 12,000. My 2000 W650 used the rear OEM by 6,000 and the front at 8,000. I ride like an old lady and the temperatures here rarely exceed ninety degrees. BTW. My front 10 inch tire on the 150cc is nine years old, has 9,700 and looks just fine. The rear OEM only lasted 3,000. Maybe the front has age hardened but it's not dry rotting. I'll keep it on there until it balds out in another 10 years or so. If I have to plug it, well so be it. I have the original front tire on my Burgman-figure I will have to replace it next year. Rear was replaced at 11k miles-5K on the Shinko. Motorcycle tires are a disgrace.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jun 21, 2017 6:18:20 GMT -5
Not motorcycle tires, but still upsetting-- I'm having the bike shop fix up Mom's Schwinn for me to ride around. I've had it hanging from the ceiling so the tires wouldn't get cracked. Instead they dry-rotted. Brand new tires that never touched the street, thrown out. Of course, it's been at least five years if not more that I hung the bikes. But still.... So new tires CAN go bad. Bothers me to throw out something that has never been used, that should still be good. >'Kat
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Post by w650 on Jun 21, 2017 9:08:08 GMT -5
The problem with tires is liability, IMO. They make them stickier so the lowest common denominator doesn't slide off the road as easily. Of course they don't last so the companies sell more of them.
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Post by spandi on Jun 21, 2017 10:44:08 GMT -5
I run an am63 Avon Viper Stryke up front and a steel belted Pirelli Diablo in back. Cheap tires just aren't worth the hassle. (or potential danger)
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jun 21, 2017 11:26:58 GMT -5
I run an am63 Avon Viper Stryke up front and a steel belted Pirelli Diablo in back. Cheap tires just aren't worth the hassle. (or potential danger) I have no complaints with the Shinko on my Burg...my wife is quite happy with the IRC on her PC800.
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Post by w650 on Jun 21, 2017 16:20:42 GMT -5
I use Cheng Shin tires whenever I can. They give reasonable mileage and enough traction for me. The one in the back of my 150cc scooter even came from Taiwan so name doesn't necessarily mean poor quality. My Fashion is doing well with the Shinkos on it. They were the cheapest tires I could find in the size I needed.
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jun 21, 2017 18:25:46 GMT -5
I'm just happy if it isn't from China.
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Post by w650 on Jun 22, 2017 0:01:17 GMT -5
I don't care where it's from as long as it's round and holds air. I don't ride hard enough at this age to worry about it. My 750 Kawasaki has Dunlops now but I won't be buying expensive tires like that later.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Jun 22, 2017 18:15:14 GMT -5
That (the squealing) speaks to a car horribly out of alignment and with more problems than just cheap tires on it. Its even possible the tire dealer was a shady one and sold you old out of date tires that were cheap because he picked them up from a lot sent to be recycled.... I'm pretty sure it wasn't alignment 'cause I could feel the slipping as I turned. I remember it startled the heck outta me first few times 'cause I hadn't realized I was going so fast. Then I started paying attention to my speed. I *wasn't* going that fast. >'Kat i agree with rocky, it certainly seems like a front end alignment problem
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Post by SylvreKat on Jun 22, 2017 22:15:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it wasn't alignment 'cause I could feel the slipping as I turned. I remember it startled the heck outta me first few times 'cause I hadn't realized I was going so fast. Then I started paying attention to my speed. I *wasn't* going that fast. >'Kat i agree with rocky, it certainly seems like a front end alignment problem Well, it's totally moot 'cause there's no way to check on it. Although I'll point out that it wasn't alignment that slid my car across the road 'til the left front hit the ditch and flipped the car. It was crappy tires that never regained traction. I freely admit I'm NOT mechanical, and I'll joke about being dumb blonde, but I think I can tell sliding tires. I've stomped on brakes enough, I know what a skid feels like. (interesting note--while I'm a terrible brake-stomper & thank God for ABS on newish car, I am not the equivalent on my scoot. Last MSF class in the panic stop, they told me I hit that point just below locking my brakes. Go fig that one) I believe you Kat. I've had some un-sticky tires on my cars over the years. They howled like a banshee on cloverleafs. The original OEM tires on my '72 Toyota were hazardous in the rain. They didn't stick at all and hydroplaned in the wet. Everybody has had at least one set of tires that were hard as rocks. Thank you, w650. Yeah, thinking on it, I betcha they were sun-baked tires. I remember seeing tire-stacks behind service stations when I was little, waiting in my folks' cars while the serviceman pumped gas and everything. Lots of tires all over, usually. >'Kat
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Jun 23, 2017 9:26:59 GMT -5
kat, odd, that. even with completely bald tires, you shouldn't have slid off the road, IF you were going slow enough to make the turn. but then again i haven't dealt with a horribly misaligned front end either. the only reason for tread is to help prevent hydroplaning. race car tires do not have tread, and traction is a MAJOR requirement in this application.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Jun 23, 2017 9:32:48 GMT -5
8,000 miles from a ten inch tire? I have 6,000 on my 150cc rear tire right now and and it's bald. My best mileage on a scooter rear tire was from a $70 Bridgestone ML-16 on the Fashion @ 6,300. Tires today suck. My OEM tire on my 1979 Kawasaki went 19,000 and I regularly got 14,000 from a rear tire no matter the brand. Fronts lasted 35,000 usually. NOT TODAY! My bikes blow through rears in 8,000 and fronts at 12,000. My 2000 W650 used the rear OEM by 6,000 and the front at 8,000. I ride like an old lady and the temperatures here rarely exceed ninety degrees. BTW. My front 10 inch tire on the 150cc is nine years old, has 9,700 and looks just fine. The rear OEM only lasted 3,000. Maybe the front has age hardened but it's not dry rotting. I'll keep it on there until it balds out in another 10 years or so. If I have to plug it, well so be it. wow. i never measured my tire mileage, but my guess is my scoots rear tires lasted about 3,000 miles, and the front about 6,000 it's very rough estimate though. i replaced my rear tire 3 times and the front once in 10,000 miles.
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