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Post by Chaapa'ai on Feb 4, 2014 11:24:19 GMT -5
UPDATE: I have ran into some unexpected cash and have ordered a cheapo big bore kit off ebay for 67.99$ free expedited shipping Estimated delivery Thursday, Feb 6, 2014 - Monday, Feb 10, 2014 When i receive my product i will update this thread with the above promised photos. thanks for reading ! EDIT: here is a link to the item i have ordered if anyone was interested or cared to check it out www.ebay.com/itm/161194484000
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Feb 2, 2014 16:43:32 GMT -5
been looking at a cheap 2011 GMW Phantom 2 Stroke 1e40qmb same as listed below seminolescooters.com/GMW/Phantom/Phantom.htmare these scooters worth the money? or are these another Tao Tao / Peace Sports type brand ? i cannot seem to find out where they are manufactured i did happen across a forum where someone stated they ''think they are made in china my ZHEN'' can anyone prove otherwise or back this statement ? some insight or experience ? i am looking at a used scooter in showroom condition with 50 miles on it priced at 850$
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Feb 2, 2014 16:18:57 GMT -5
UPDATE: i have been running premium gasoline since i got this scooter high grade Lucus brand 2T oil and giving the scoot 5 minutes to warm up, even in hot weather Today my Cracked piston finally failed i have not yet checked inside the cylinder as i do not yet have a replacement it could possibly just need new Rings for all i know i was doing 33ish mph when the failure took place, thankfully i had ample time to flip on a turn signal and get out of harms way i will update this thread with a final post with in the next month (31ish days) when i have gotten my tax returns and all parts (or just top end kit) arrives i will add multiple photos of cylinder, head, gasket, piston and ring condition upon rebuilding i got the scoot at 13,0xx miles failure occurred at 14,497 miles cannot complain at 250$ for the scoot i expect i will be back on the road with a new top end only EDIT: i was a block and a half from my house so not too bad
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 31, 2014 9:29:33 GMT -5
Put another 200 miles on this cracked piston since the post date, broke as heck, so i am going to run this top end into the ground slowly until it explodes and get those shits listed above, hehe i sure am curious as to just how long tthis is going to last, personally i've never heard of a two stroke with 14,200 miles lol Keep Rollin rollin Rollin! lol that's how i feel every time i start the damn thing > with the weather changing to colder temps here in Florida the bike is getting harder to start i suppose it would be a compression leak from the crack in the piston lol Cmon Adly Start !
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 28, 2014 14:37:48 GMT -5
This.....Is... EFFING AWESOME!
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 28, 2014 14:26:16 GMT -5
So i do not have pictures yet due to the way i went about install, BUT! i will attach some pics to here when i replace the entire top end!so i just bought a 2005 adly panther 50cc two stroke scooter no less than a month ago, 13000 miles on one top end! when i got iti removed the stock exhaust and replaced it with a chamber pipe, i then started the bike, the vibrations caused one of the exhaust port bolts to snap off inside the cylinder head!so i took the top end off the bike and thankfully the piece of bolt still in the cylinder head had enough to use needle nose pliers to twist it out WOOT! never had that kind of luck with a broken stud/bolt SO here comes the bragging rights! man i look at the piston to align the rings to slide the jug back on and what do i see ?!? This piston has a HUUUGE crack that goes all the way up the side of the piston, under the rings and continues to the middle top of the pistons head !!!! holy balls bat man how is this scooter still running and reaching 45 mph ?!? How the heck do i still have compression ?!? here i am, now 14022 miles on one top end, stroking along on a cracked pistoni am 100% astonished that this bike has enough compression to start, run AND reach 45 mph on flats Despite the poor condition of this scooters plastic's (and the fact i cannot find new plastics anymore) the 13000 miles, of pure torture (this scooter was a Rental shop scooter in the ghetto here for 12k miles of its life) i am Truely Happy with this scooter brand, model and build, the 1e40qmb engine it has, is not the everyday cheap version there are a few things that led me to this assumption, one great feature this 40qmb has, that i personally have never seen (yet) is a vent hose from the fan shroud (right side) to the drive belt ''crank case'' area (left side) to assist in the cooling of the drive belt, most Belt failures occur on long rides where the belt has ample time to over heat, expand and either slip off track, or brake ! i cannot wait to sink some tax return into 80% rebuilding this bike new exhaust new 6g rollers new performance clutch 44mm rather than the stock 40mm new performance 2k clutch springs new performance 2k torque spring new performance kevlar belt New aluminum 70cm/70cc big bore kit with a high performance squish band head from scrappy dog scooters new high performance CDI and ignition coil and of course metal grips new skull hand/held mirrors of ebay L.E.D lights all around, signals, tail, head lamp all black paint job thank's for the read! and sorry i could not provide pictures ''YET''HOW EVER i did a google search and found a piston with nearly identical cracks except mine follows down the side of the piston as well i will upload for now as pure reference
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 24, 2014 16:30:04 GMT -5
Solved issue, dead thread
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 24, 2014 12:14:52 GMT -5
13567 miles and counting
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 22, 2014 6:27:08 GMT -5
Found and clipped off the green wire from the CDI
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 22, 2014 6:14:10 GMT -5
Loved reading your post oldchopperguy nothing better than reassurance that you did the right thing or made the right decision! I called the rental shop witch use to own this before my sellerthey NEVER installed a new cylinder or rings ect, everything except the tires and brakes are stock, Now running at 13040 miles strong! they had regular maintenance's done I.E Break fluid gear oil brakes tires air filter spark plugs i contacted adly's customer service for parts by phone yesterday they told me the sales peoples were out for lunch and would call me back they did about 15 minutes later, i told the guy what i was looking for he said he would check around and call me back - sadly he never did, so i will give another call today, i know fairing are extremely expensive, all new plastics are about as much as a new scooter... so my best option will be to take the above advise and fix it my self, witch actually works out for the best as i plan to repaint the entire scooter as for it being already derestricted it was not (i did how ever find it eventually! it is now) i am getting about 47mph on flats with a chamber pipe but i am seeing a concerningly slow take off 0mph - 10mph in about 20 seconds, witch might just be average however with my 2004 eton beamer bbk and chamber pipe installed, i was able to get 57mph on flats (GPS'ed) and take off was around 0mph - 10mph in about 3 secondsburn out on pavement (GPS'ed) so maybe i am just spoiled with my last bike being good to me it is not bogging, or even acting slugish, it is very responsive just very slow, i expect new clutch springs and a performance clutch assembly will solve this the bbk should also help Vehicles behind me HATE ME it's funny how they go to pass me and suddenly my scoot is doing 10-15mph above the posted limit anyway lol
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 21, 2014 14:12:17 GMT -5
Just located CDI, clipped the green while just like the eton beamer
seems to take off a tab bit better now
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 21, 2014 12:00:41 GMT -5
So i just got done doing my first wrench session on this scooter to witch i have unhappy there is a air filter style hose, that goes from the fan shroud on the right side of scooter over to the left side of the scooter and into the transmission / drivetrain (for cooling) witch is Destroyed! needs replacing the air filter for the carb was COMPLETELY destroyed!!! i'm taking that foam was disintegrating into mere particals! so i replaced the air filter ALL body panels starting at the floorboard (witch is fine) to the tail night need replacing and of course adly's parts site had them listed as unavailable so i need some tips, how to switch scooter fairings, witch style fairing i can / need to use **** i cannot find the piece i need to derestrict for unlimited rev range **** need help with that, on my eton beamer you removed the seat assembly and cut a small green wire coming out of the ''cdi?'' i cannot find this piece on my new scooter and am in dire need of help ! to do list: open style air filter big bore kit that includes exhaust pipe, carb, clutch/springs, larger jet ect body panels/fairings fluid flush, gas, gear oil, brake fluids new grips new turn signals new head lamps this is a total restoration job! UGH but it does run!
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 20, 2014 21:04:41 GMT -5
Picked the bike up today at 5:45pm est MGT-5 for 250$ USD the body panels are in rough shape (a few areas where the fairings mount to the frame are broken appears rigged with screws and zip ties ) if anyone knows where i could get some new or used working condition ones let me know ! until then i will find and do what i can! (i checked Adly site, list says unavailable) with the stock exhaust i rode home (super slow take off) GPS'ed in at 44mph on flats everything stock and in need of a serious cleaning air filter, trans filter, gas flush he said it is 1 month+ old gas (with stablizer) bolted on my chamber pipe and it climbed to 50mph on flats appears to have roughly the same take off speed i assume to get 55mph after i De-restrict it and install the big bore kit / replace filters came with papers showing new brake pads front and rear, witch i confirmed, new tires also confirmed this bike was sold to My Seller by a local rental shop, who obviously maintained it very well at 11881 miles i bought it today at 13034 miles i plan to replace a lot of things on it still turn signals to L.E.D head lights to L.E.D Hoca power kit witch includs everything, bbk, carb, clutch pipe ect. new grips going to repaint it all black i see fun reliable riding in my future ! (now to stop my self from riding it all over town with my last scoots plate before i register it haha! )
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 20, 2014 0:47:27 GMT -5
i would only be replacing the cylinder head, jug, piston, rings, cir clips, pin (assuming it is also a 10mm pin *crossed fingers*) with a used kit bearing 2k miles on it as far as completely rebuilding a 2 stroke what all would i need? new: CDI Air filter/housing spark plug Top end kit(witch i have) what else should i toss in there to add to this scooters reliability the seller is telling me that it starts and runs says it could ''probably use a tune up'' as far as i know two strokes do not really get ''tune ups'' other than an air filter change out and a new spark plug ? and add that to the 13000 miles on the meter makes me iffy, but less so knowing i have a matching bbk in my drive way as well as and expansion chamber style exhaust pipe! a simple rebuild as far as i know, consists of new pistion, rings, and or jug/head but at 13000 miles should i not replace some gear's or something ? lol i am a scooter noob this will be my third scoot 1: 2012 VIP taotao champion 50cc 4t 2: 2004 Eton beamer PN2 2T witch is what is in the drive way 3: this scoot
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Post by Chaapa'ai on Jan 20, 2014 0:18:06 GMT -5
EDIT: sorry forgot to give the name of the scooter, year and all that jazz 2005 Aldy Panther 50cc 2 Stroke images.craigslist.org/00d0d_jvm77erorvf_600x450.jpgimages.craigslist.org/00W0W_7etFFaWVhPs_600x450.jpgimages.craigslist.org/00V0V_6rHjcIjuvG8_600x450.jpg13000 miles, i have a 72cc bbk sitting around from my old eton beamer to put on it i found this and have arranged to buy it tomorrow for 250$ ! Anyone have a solid opinion on this scooter? any back info, such as where it is manufactured, is it a 1E40qmb engine as i think it is? am i wasting my time and money at 13000 miles? considering i have a high quality used big bore kit to put on it ? (2k miles on bbk) questions, comments, opinions, link's of videos, pics and or reviews ? This scooter has some damaged pastic's hard to see in these low res pic's but it is at the rear end of the seat, it appears as though the rear fairing/plastics screwed to the bucket area with some odd rusty looking more than likely scrap metal brackets?
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