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Post by played1 on Oct 1, 2014 16:38:33 GMT -5
Yep the three yellow wires should be putting out pretty close the same Vac. You can use it but you will have to setup your Headlights off a switch. Alleyoop So even if I rewire the whole system, I won't be able to use the existing switch or the wires from it?
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Post by played1 on Oct 1, 2014 15:38:06 GMT -5
So I got an 11-pole stator, flywheel, and Regulator. I ordered DC on accident instead of AC and guess what, NO RETURNS puto! So I now have 3 yellow wires off the stator and three going to the regulator. My question is, are all 3 yellow wires the same? I rewiring the whold damn thing and I swear this Ecotrons FI is going to kill me.
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Post by played1 on Jul 15, 2014 19:42:26 GMT -5
150cc peace sports
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Post by played1 on Jul 15, 2014 19:23:24 GMT -5
So I know I need a stator upgrade because my 6-pole can't keep up with the 3.5 amp draw of my EFI kit. I'm running the Ecotrons CDI and I have no idea which 11-pole to get. Also I realize I have to get a rectifier and possibly the magneto rotor. What should I do. And yes John, I've checked the site.
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Post by played1 on Mar 17, 2014 21:49:50 GMT -5
Maybe I need a degree in ridiculous, but I can't make out as far as the programming of the Ecotrons kit. First, the program it came with does not jive at all with my scoot. Next, reading the manual, is like reading and engineering drawing of an engineer that has learned English as a second language. Finally, If you want to learn how to program, you have to skip around the text on the over 200+ pages and basically learn the abbreviations for simple things. Oh yea, don't forget, an O2 sensor is a Lambda sensor. If you want to view anything, you have to stop measuring then roll click something almost equivalent to writing DOS code, then start measuring. All you guys that think I'm dumb, that's fine but this is mildly ridiculous. I know now why this is not labeled a PnP system. The extra $50 I've had to drop in assorted odds and ends is stupid. Yet I continue to try...
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Post by played1 on Mar 3, 2014 10:44:46 GMT -5
having the throttle body upside down can cause fuel to puddle up at the injector causing problems as well I thought the same thing which is why I asked "Matt". But the thing is, it has run fine. Ecotrons got back to me last night and he wants me to send the recording off the ECU. Man by the time I'm done with this, I hope I learn something...
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Post by played1 on Mar 3, 2014 10:41:54 GMT -5
It looks like your fuel lines are wrong! Why this splitt? Looks like it's attached to the injector and the other one where the MAP-sensor should be or to the valve cover. I can't see clearly on your images... This fuel line is not supposed to be splitted, it's supposed to go directly to the injector! This is how the fuel lines is supposed to be drawn: And if you move the MAP-sensor you have to plug that hole on the throttle body. I didn't have any problems mounting the throttle body the other way and it looks like we have the same type of scooter. Here's a link to my install: Wilds Efi kit installf you notice, we have a completely different setup. You have the bubble type fuel pump kit. I have the small fuel pump. Check out the new instruction manual which includes routing and hook up of both systems.
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Post by played1 on Mar 2, 2014 21:09:01 GMT -5
I'm pushing 12 volts. I know both from the meter and I thought maybe it's not keeping up so I hit a car battery instead. I used the cdi provided with the kit. Unfortunately it killed my tach and my kill switch is just an ornament now. No petcock on this tank and if you looked at the picture, you can obviously see the pump lower than the tank. As for the Map sensor, I got 2. So when the first got wet, I used the other. I'm waiting for "Matt" to get back to me and I'll have more soon.
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Post by played1 on Mar 2, 2014 18:51:06 GMT -5
I thought the MAP was after the air filter in the air stream . I wonder if the injected fuel after the throttle plate is knocking off your mix and causing the problem . 12 hour difference when dealing with China , thats why your emails are being answered at or after 10pm . Hang in there you will get it sorted out . John this is what he sent me though Matt of Ecotrons Feb 27 (3 days ago) to Support, me Yes, MAP sensor is probably temporarily damaged by the fuel. MAP sensor has to be higher than the throttle body. You can drill a hole on the top of the manifold and move the MAP sensor up there, if you have to run injector at the bottom.
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Post by played1 on Mar 2, 2014 18:49:20 GMT -5
You know, I bet you are right. I thought of that and dismissed it. But the weird thing is, is that it ran great the other day with the same setup.
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Post by played1 on Mar 2, 2014 17:14:58 GMT -5
Just about done. Everything it hooked up. I'm very disappointed in the fuel injection line. I will be replacing all of the clear with actual Gates fuel injection line, and the clamp with Ideal fuel injection clamps. Right now I'm just trying to get it to run and stop backfiring. Kinda sucks that you have to wait for emails which seem to come in around 10pm. I'm just ready to be done with this. Check out the pics below. I flipped the throttle body so it would actually fit but it meant I had to put the MAP sensor on the manifold. Fuel was backing up into the line. I've done my best for wire management. The fuel pump has to move because the seat won't go back down. I could heat it with the heat gun and mold it around it but right now I can easily stuff a 12-pack under my seat and I don't want to compromise. Another view from right to left. A view from above the throttle body. A general mess. There are 3 wire connections here and 1 fuel line. Best advice I can give on this, is to buy a box of hose clamps before you do this and Get a 2 feet of 5/32" and 7/32" vacuum line. If you go to advance do not buy hose clamps off the shelf. Ask for a commercial pack that they keep in back and do not offer to the public. A box of 10 should cost you $4. Up close of the map. HOOK EVERYTHING TO THE THROTTLE BODY BEFORE BOLTING DOWN THE MANIFOLD!!!!!!! There is not a lot of room at this point to do anything without taking it in and out. Overall, this has been pretty good. I'm going to put together my receipts and put together a shopping list of any of you are interested in doing this. It's not that bad. You basically have to rip apart all of your plastics but the install itself is easy. It just takes longer if you want to go a little further and stretch things or add loom. By the way, this is a 2012 Peace Dart 150. And yes it was new and cheap. And for that cheap price, I got tires that were not round.
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Post by played1 on Feb 21, 2014 11:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by played1 on Feb 21, 2014 9:18:46 GMT -5
I am really interested in seeing how yours turns out. I just did a lot of re-wiring on mine mostly because of an 11 pole stator upgrade, but also to have the future capability of FI. The thing I have seen that is kind of vague is the throttle cable modification to make it hook up to the throttle body. Did you have to do much with that? I actually got the flanged throttle body and not the cvk so I'm waiting for the right throttle body and have been in a holding pattern for about a week. 'll let you know and will post plenty when I get it. I have rewired the MIL light because it was so short and used a light from an old car alarm to run it up to the gauges and I extended the performance switch and added a hard mount switch. I haven't done the 11 pole stator yet. I'm waiting to see the need.
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Post by played1 on Feb 20, 2014 9:46:49 GMT -5
Does the belt fit tight on the rear? The "drum thingy" is the clutch bell and it's probably not the clutches failing to engage. Inspect the belt, and check for any excessive wear marks on it. You should not be able to slide the belt on the variator without squeezing the rear together to make the belt drop in. I'm not thinking it the weights because it should engage but not gain speed. Your belt may be the wrong one too.
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Post by played1 on Feb 20, 2014 9:40:24 GMT -5
So I'm working on my EFI gy6 conversion and it's going well except Ecotrons sent me a flanged throttle body vs. the CVK. I took the time to loom all of my wires and re-run a lot of wires too. I'll have a lot more pictures to come but so far, it's not too bad. If anyone needs anything, I have a brand new 28mm Carb with a brand new manual choke conversion, and a 32mm CVK carb available. Message me if interested. IF anyone else is doing this I have plenty of pics to help out. Matt at Ecotrons has been pretty quick about getting back to me but parts of the install guide are a bit vague.
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