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Post by played1 on Feb 20, 2014 9:40:24 GMT -5
So I'm working on my EFI gy6 conversion and it's going well except Ecotrons sent me a flanged throttle body vs. the CVK. I took the time to loom all of my wires and re-run a lot of wires too. I'll have a lot more pictures to come but so far, it's not too bad. If anyone needs anything, I have a brand new 28mm Carb with a brand new manual choke conversion, and a 32mm CVK carb available. Message me if interested. IF anyone else is doing this I have plenty of pics to help out. Matt at Ecotrons has been pretty quick about getting back to me but parts of the install guide are a bit vague.  |
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 21, 2014 0:44:10 GMT -5
I am really interested in seeing how yours turns out. I just did a lot of re-wiring on mine mostly because of an 11 pole stator upgrade, but also to have the future capability of FI.
The thing I have seen that is kind of vague is the throttle cable modification to make it hook up to the throttle body. Did you have to do much with that?
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Post by justbuggin2 on Feb 21, 2014 0:44:55 GMT -5
yea Matt is a great guy to work with cant wait to see your full write up and pics
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Post by played1 on Feb 21, 2014 9:18:46 GMT -5
I am really interested in seeing how yours turns out. I just did a lot of re-wiring on mine mostly because of an 11 pole stator upgrade, but also to have the future capability of FI. The thing I have seen that is kind of vague is the throttle cable modification to make it hook up to the throttle body. Did you have to do much with that? I actually got the flanged throttle body and not the cvk so I'm waiting for the right throttle body and have been in a holding pattern for about a week. 'll let you know and will post plenty when I get it. I have rewired the MIL light because it was so short and used a light from an old car alarm to run it up to the gauges and I extended the performance switch and added a hard mount switch. I haven't done the 11 pole stator yet. I'm waiting to see the need. |
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Post by justbuggin2 on Feb 21, 2014 9:40:23 GMT -5
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Post by played1 on Feb 21, 2014 11:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by wilds on Feb 22, 2014 2:18:05 GMT -5
I am really interested in seeing how yours turns out. I just did a lot of re-wiring on mine mostly because of an 11 pole stator upgrade, but also to have the future capability of FI. The thing I have seen that is kind of vague is the throttle cable modification to make it hook up to the throttle body. Did you have to do much with that? The only thing I had to do was to drill the hole (circled with red) on the throttle body to 8.5 mm and then the throttle cable fitted perfectly...   |
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Post by mopedjay on Feb 22, 2014 9:32:41 GMT -5
no offense but whats the point of putting more complicated efi onto an already simple carbed scooter
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Post by wilds on Feb 22, 2014 15:32:09 GMT -5
no offense but whats the point of putting more complicated efi onto an already simple carbed scooter Better throttle response, much better performance, easier to start the engine, easier "tuning of jets"... |
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 22, 2014 15:55:05 GMT -5
no offense but whats the point of putting more complicated efi onto an already simple carbed scooter Better throttle response, much better performance, easier to start the engine, easier "tuning of jets"... Carbs have two advantages. Cheaper and don't need power to run. However, in my mind the power issue is negated by the fact my carb is finicky enough it would NEVER start with the kick starter. Wilds hit it on the head, EFI is better in every respect except for cost, and when I need mine (for as close as your going to get a Chinese scoot) to be a workhorse the cost becomes less of an issue. |
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Post by justbuggin2 on Feb 22, 2014 19:37:15 GMT -5
same reasons that all the auto makers went to EFI
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Post by mopedjay on Feb 24, 2014 0:42:28 GMT -5
what happens when it breaks down and dont tell me it doesnt
not flamming just asking
im the opposite of the normal 21st century person im very anti tech my car messed up so i ripped out the efi and electronics and swapped in a carb and points distributor
im also running auto advance timing points set up from my old honda passport on my honda elite 250 but the old honda points rusted out so easy enough a set of chevy mallory screw adjust points are cheap then the condenser of a vw bug and i have beautiful spark
im all about running reliable but if it breaks down i can fix it anywhere i am including everglades back country
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Post by oldchopperguy on Feb 24, 2014 1:40:00 GMT -5
I'm all for simple too, but today, it seems like fuel-injection is getting to be really reliable. And, on a given engine, it should give easier tuning, better all-round performance AND better gas-mileage. Even my old '89 Mercury station wagon (a genuine "Chevy Chase 'Vacation' Family-Truckster"...) has throttle-body F.I. It has over 400,000 miles on the clock, and still runs great, with never a problem.
I think that with today's technology, fuel-injection on a single-cylinder scooter should be less troublesome than the doggone carburetor... At least better than the carb that was on my old Chinese 150... LOL!
Injection is still pricey, but I'll bet the cost comes down as more riders want to upgrade their old scoots.
Time will tell...
Leo in Texas
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Post by dakotafig on Feb 24, 2014 8:57:50 GMT -5
what happens when it breaks down and dont tell me it doesnt When it breaks down, you fix it. Just like when the carb screws up you fix it. The majority of us probably don't ride our Chinese scoots in absolutely desolate places. My opinion (and that is all it is, I'm not flaming back) I would take fuel injection any day over a carb no matter where I would be going. |
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Post by mopedjay on Feb 24, 2014 10:25:31 GMT -5
what happens when it breaks down and dont tell me it doesnt When it breaks down, you fix it. Just like when the carb screws up you fix it. but you cant fix your ecm if it dies |
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