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Post by rockynv on Nov 2, 2016 23:58:20 GMT -5
The NISMO Leaf has been a test bed and a bit of an eye opener for many. Some look at just the HP numbers however driving one is much nicer than the numbers suggest it will be.
Even the stock Leaf will come pretty close to matching a Porsche 911 on the skid pad if you upgrade the tires from the Green LLR Ecopia's to a more aggressive racing tire.
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Post by rockynv on Nov 2, 2016 23:20:01 GMT -5
Depends on the year and mileage along with if its one of the Znen Roars with the overheating problem. $1,500 is about right with regular still below $2.30 a gallon.
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Post by rockynv on Nov 2, 2016 23:10:49 GMT -5
Shalom - Which DCT variant did you end up with?
The 2015 CTX700N was recently on sale for $4,999 new off the showroom floor here in Tampa which really tempted me to pull the trigger.
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Post by rockynv on Nov 2, 2016 11:21:23 GMT -5
Planning to take my bike with lighter clutch pull (R1200R) out for a short ride in a few days.
You have, what I assume you're saying, a BMW and you're asking about a Freeway commuter? The lightest, toughest bike in its class. I think you're already equipped for a long daily ride. Thats if his left wing holds out. Be tough on the final 10/20 miles home to find you can't work the clutch anymore unless you take the happy pills. Constant pain can be very tiring.
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Post by rockynv on Nov 2, 2016 4:08:09 GMT -5
All in all, if you dont mind a project bike to work on... 350 and above for highway scooters chinese or not. 250s can do it.... its just 350 and avove, you will have more room to work with / have more power to avoid potentially ad situations. The burgmans are comphy for long distance/ big and tall riders... i just dont like the look.. I tried the Burgman and found it was more than the looks that turned me away from them. They are not as agile as the 500cc Italian bikes and felt a bit top heavy. The Silver Wing by far was the worst at feeling unbalanced to be fair. To me in the Japanese bikes first to last for riding position and balance it was Majesty, Tmax, Burgman 400, Burgman 600 with the Silverwing coming in last. All are nicely built and all are CVT belt drive though the Burgman adds the extra cost of a Computer Controlled CVT (read that as expensive requiring special tools and a proprietary computer for a belt change) along with a drive extension to get power to the rear wheel. A good quality high compression fuel injected 250 Scooter would do regardless of who makes it however yes the a 350 would give you more latitude. On a motorcycle one would have to be more careful and aim higher as some of the 500's with low compression carbureted engines especially those with less than 6 gears will have a lower cruising and top speed than a high compression 250cc or 350cc scooter. The Enfield Bullet 500 for example is a very low compression bike designed for areas that do not have good access to high octain fuels so compression is at 8.5 to 1 which limits hp to about 26 which is about what a lighter 250cc high compression scooter has while the 350 scooter is usually over 30 hp and still lighter and more aerodynamic than the 500cc motorcycle. Its all about compromises that one finds acceptable.
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Post by rockynv on Nov 2, 2016 0:02:00 GMT -5
David,
I have been cheating the doctors for years as they insist that I should have been wheelchair bound by the mid to late 1990's. Even dumping the bike on some sugar sand at 45 mph and having the bike slide over me a year and a half ago didn't put me there. They make fun of me for wearing my gear on the Sport City but if not for the gear (full face helmet, CE3 mesh jacket, leather/carbon fiber gloves and boots) I probably would not be talking about it now.
Play Goldilocks and get what fits you and your budget. I can only pass on my experience as a disabled senior citizen who still can find a way to keep riding. Myself the constant temptation is to pickup a White Mana 850 GT with the Touring Pack.
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Post by rockynv on Nov 1, 2016 11:54:50 GMT -5
I don't know if I'll live to see it but the Chinese are moving in like the Japanese did. Making 250cc bikes for under $3500 from a dealer is a strong step. Also, a little known fact. Benelli is owned by Qianjiang. The 300 series is built in China but designed in Italy. Not sure about the 600. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_(motorcycles)Acquisitions like that will give the Chinese access to large engine technology without just copying. The ill fated CF Moto NK 650 appeared to be little more than an ER-n Kawasaki 650 re-bake. As noted elsewhere the VP of SSR used to work for American Suzuki. Those 250s SSR is importing look pretty good as economy/entry level models. And Piaggio has been grooming ZongShen and a few others to produce better products maintaining a team of their own Italian engineers there to ensure their quality standards are maintained. Piaggio's main game though is really Aviation and AeroSpace so the motorcycle buisiness is just really to get a foot in the door. This appears to be working as the Chinese Military and Police are being seen more often now on Aprilia Motorcycles made in China such as the 850cc Mana and not the 250's they made 20 or so years ago. John Deere seems to be happy with using Aprilia 850cc engines in their high performance Gators here in the US so there is hope that some American bike builder could start using them too. Aprilia is not bringing the Mana 850 Automatic Motorcycle or SR850 Scooter to the US however the door appears open for someone else to buy the engines and build an automatic bike based on them here.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 31, 2016 23:01:48 GMT -5
Would be nice if SSR put a 450 into a street bike. Looked at the Benelli TnT600 also and it looks great however the price ($6,999 plus $295 destination charge ) is getting too close to what you can get an entry level Honda 700 or a real Italian Aprila Shiver 750 for. Aprilia motorcycles are considered by many to be the Italian equivalent to a Honda due to their quality. TnT600 $7,294 verses Shiver 750 on sale for $7,499.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 31, 2016 22:19:52 GMT -5
Actually from what I read on Modern Vespa, it's because Vespa cheaped out on the high tension lead from the coil and the wire is slightly short stretching and pulling on the spark plug cap. I'm glad you have had such good luck with your Aprilia but you can't buy a new Sport City here anymore. I hear the Piaggio BV 350 is a marvelous weapon and might be up to the job. In my world a motorcycle continues to be a stronger horse. Maybe in yours the scooter works better. Horses for courses. I continue to own both. People come up with all sort of excuses for why what they did to mess up their bikes isn't their own fault trying to blame the manufacturer. On the Vespa/Piaggio, spark plug cap failures are more often from belt vibration due to lack of maintenance running the bike past the OEM belt change schedule, buying bargain old stock belts that are too old to be used, failure to keep the CVT air filter clean overheating the belt, from aftermarket brand belts or from using an impact wrench to install the variator drive face distorting it so it wobbles. I have even seen people who complain the high tension lead is too short that really have a lead that they twisted around where it didn't belong or spun it a few times making it into a curly pigs tail while attempting to verify it was tight. In any situation it most often comes down damage from a poor choice made by the operator just like the motorcycle rider who complains the manufacturer of the brand he is riding cheaped out on the chain and sprocket after it failed even though the root cause was his failure to clean, lubricate and tension the chain and sprocket properly according to the owners manuals specification. Once you weed out the self inflicted issues you find that there are relatively few real ones where there was an actual defect and yes just like any other brand that has millions of bikes on the road there will be a limited few with legitimate issues which are most often addressed in TSB's that mechanics failed to apply. Many times when you see similar issues posted about a Vespa/Piaggio product its the same user posting in multiple forums about a poorly maintained or modified bike. Aprilia, Derby, Vespa and Piaggio all run the same Piaggio Master, Quasar and Legend series engines which if you use OEM parts and follow the maintenance schedule in the owners manual will be relatively trouble free for 50,000 to 100,000 miles. Use Walmart Automotive grade Dino oil, old stock belts, non OEM Belts (including the super abrasive kevlar belts), skip coolant/brake flushes and you will have premature failures on the bike. If you follow the maintenance schedule every 6,250 miles changing the oil, gearlube, filters using the specified synthetic motorcycle specific 4T oil and check the valve lash, change the belt along with the rollers every 12,500 miles using OEM parts along with clean the CVT air filter regularly depending on how dirty the area you ride in is (about every 3,000 miles works for me) and don't skip the brake/coolant flushes every two years on a Piaggio powered scooter 250cc and above you should get 50,000 miles from the stock clutch and variator before they need replacing and the engine will still be running like new. A Honda CTX700N DCT with a sport fairing is what I recommended if the need was for daily interstate rides of 100+ miles for a rider who could not deal with a clutch lever. Second would be a Mana 850 automatic and third would be a BV350 or a used BV500 with low miles on it. NC700 has the foot pegs in an odd location for me so that I find them right against the back of my calves when you stop and put a foot down so I am reluctant to recommend it. Myself I am a 61 year old disabled rider who's left leg and ankle was so badly busted up in a ladder accident that I can't deal with a pedal shifter any longer nor can I deal with a 600+ lb bike so I have my choices limited to a touring scooter or automatic motorcycle that's not so top heavy that the left leg can't keep it balanced at a stop light after a long days riding. Been riding over 40 years now and am happy that there are more choices today than there ever were for disabled riders.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 31, 2016 11:29:30 GMT -5
If speed was the only consideration a high powered Italian scooter would be fine. The Italians have always been capable of building high powered, lightweight machines. It's longevity that they fall short on. Having commuted on one big Japanese motorcycle for over 100,000 miles I can tell you that you will be astounded at the things that wear out beyond 50,000 miles. Brake switches, wheel bearings, even wires rubbing through from the vibration and motion that a vehicle experiences. Read old entries of Steve Williams "Scooter in the Sticks". His Vespa 250 has experienced spark plug caps failing, wiring harness flameout, a failing fuel pump and, recently, a dying voltage regulator besides all the belt changes, roller replacements and routine maintenance. All in 32,000 miles and nine years of daily commuting. Fortunately his friend Paul has a truck to retrieve him when the scooter stops. A bike. And my Aprilia with the same mileage has had none of those issues. Belt changes are at 12,000 to 15,000 miles unless you inflict harm on yourself by purchasing a bargain belt. Spark plug cap failures are usually because poor quality or very old stock belts were used or potentially from the use of kevlar belts that tend to score drive faces causing excess vibrations. Some riders unfortunately shoot themselves in the foot playing games with drive belts as the vibrations they cause bring about all sorts of collateral damages.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 31, 2016 4:08:36 GMT -5
Tractors have titles? Really? I wonder if Mom's John Deere lawn mower also had one. Or at least the neighbour's--he had some monster-sized JD mower, too wide to fit through our chain link's gate. Had five gears but you never went past second. He'd drive it up the street to our house and drink a beer/shoot the breeze with Dad. >'Kat Depending on the size yes however everything you buy comes with some proof of ownership be it the bill of sale, charge receipt, warranty certificate, etc. Farm tractors are regularly titled and plated where I grew up since we had to cross and sometime drive for some distance down public roads with a tractor. You needed both the driver and the tractor to be licensed and insured to do that as even the cost of paying off a small fender bender could cause a big enough loss to loose the farm over. Some remote areas let it slide but urban sprawl outside of Boston made is so you'd be pretty foolish to try and get away without where I grew up. Though my Father was an ElectroChemical Engineer at a rubber factory and my Uncle was the Maintenance Engineer they still kept the family Farm and Goat Dairy going since the Depression. It was a safety net that they could not let slide after going through the Depression. Its all gone now replaced by cookie cutter condos. I sure miss the fresh goats milk, cheese and produce along with visiting Auntie Antoinette on baking day.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 31, 2016 3:57:36 GMT -5
It would be nice if the competition forced Royal Enfield to import the Musket Vtwin to the US. I did a bit more checking and it may happen. Mahindra has set up a design center in Michigan and has a contract to design from the ground up a new right hand drive vehicle for the US Postal service. They appear to be getting positioned to design and potentially build vehicles for the US market right here in the USA. Shortly we may see the Postman driving up in a new Mahindra Postal Delivery Vehicle. Could be the sanctions against their diesel vehicles in India is forcing them to expand now. Currently it is now illegal to register a new diesel vehicle in some major cities in India such as New Deli which cuts a lot of potential sales for Mahindra there. With a design center in Michigan I think the chances of them bringing the BSA bikes to the USA are better.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 31, 2016 1:04:33 GMT -5
At commute time traffic will vary from stop and go to maybe indicated 80MPH. Interesting point about the tire pressures. I'm always impressed when people can go 100MPH on a 250, as the last 650 twin I commuted on wouldn't go faster. Well maybe with enough patience and road, or a good tuck. Depends on the 250. On a low compression twin 600 it will be torquey but won't have the top end that you can get from a high compression 250 single. Suzuki had a major shock when they sold Aprilia some of their bare 250cc blocks and saw Aprilia build them into 150+ mph rockets instead of the barely ninety mph slugs people were used to seeing from Suzuki. I rode for a while on one trip being followed by a young man on a 600cc Suzuki Bandit and when he finally caught up at a stop light his first question was if I was riding a 750 and after he found out it was just a 250 he wanted to know if I realized how fast I was going. I pointed to the fact that the bike did have a speedometer. I believe his was an older low compression carbureted 600 compared to a high compression fuel injected 250 with a 4 valve head. Besides that his bike was the more naked version of the Bandit with no windshield or fairings. The right sport fairing can also make a very big difference in top speed and how long it takes to get there. When I put the Puig Sport Fairing instead of a windshield on my 250 it was an Oh Wow! moment as I wondered "Why did I wait so long?"
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Post by rockynv on Oct 30, 2016 8:21:30 GMT -5
The Kymco Downtown 300 has been reduced to an MSRP of $5,399 so possibly once they clear those out the 350 will become more readily available here.
I find the riding position a bit tight for the knees on most Kymco bikes including their 700cc Like that dealers has so much trouble selling.
Dream bike for me would be the Aprilia SR850 which is not difficult to get but rather impossible to get in the US.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 30, 2016 8:08:38 GMT -5
The small 13/14 inch wheels make it a bit put offish to me on an 80+ mph capable bike. The Citicom with the 16 inch wheels which has the same engine would be the better choice and they both should be close to the same MSRP which on the Citicom is $4,999.
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