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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 19, 2014 17:43:21 GMT -5
Hey gang, just wanted to let you know I've so far placed two orders with cycleterminal.com and both orders arrived in 2 days with exactly what I ordered.... Cycleterminal has every, single plug or connector for a chinese scooter you will possibly need. Don't waste your time with butt/spade connectors that will eventually fail. Buy the terminals and plugs and do the job right. The prices are fair and there's only a $5.00 minimum order. You will also find many "how to articles" helping explain how to make a proper terminal and how to use the crimpers. If you have any questions, just send Joe an email. www.Cycleterminal.com |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 19, 2014 3:31:09 GMT -5
Ok, Post # 1, second picture is your alarm plug. It's a 9-pin plug with with the jumper wire completing your ignition circuit.
It looks like it's supposed to.
Your blinker problem is going to be one of those weird gremlins to track down. Somethings to start investigating - You may want to determine if someone has either installed LED turn signals without installing an LED Flasher relay. Sometimes people may try and use an alternative flasher relay, like for a car and get the wiring wrong. The hyper flashing your turn signals are exhibiting makes me suspect of the relay. I would start there.
The blue and white wire may be part of your fuel sender harness.
It's very hard to try and diagnose a problem of this nature without the scoot on hand...
If possible, try and get some shots that are a little more clear. I'll try and dig up a schematic for your scooter.
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 18, 2014 23:27:40 GMT -5
Thanks bud, how does that black white kill wire at the top look? Running straight to the ignition key. It will allow you to run your scooter, however it will not act as a kill wire unless you add a switch. I modified your diagram to show you what I'm talking about.....  |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 18, 2014 20:29:18 GMT -5
 Hope this helps! Seems a little complicated for those who may not know electrical like we do, when you get the new alarm can you take pics of the ends of the wires close to where they connect or after you have connected them? I think this would help people who don't know how to read schematics out a lot! I would do it but then we would have posts asking what i took a picture of lol bad camera is bad Yeah sure, not a problem.... I actually had plans on doing a video showing how to hook one of these alarms up. I do have one schematic, this is not for the alarm I purchased but it shows the connections with proper color coding for a chinese scooter.... And BTW, while there's a bunch of scooter alarm manufacturers,  % will have the same wiring.  |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 18, 2014 20:12:05 GMT -5
I have a picture of 3 GY6 QMB139 engines, a 3 have a long axle shaft, on line I see the same engine that has a short shaft does that mean a short case engine, I am going to pull the rear wheel off to make sure I don't order the wrong engine, but I am still confused about the picture with 3 engine and all have the long rear axle even the short case Hi, the axle shaft has nothing to do with determining if it's short or long case. What determines if it's a long/short is the size of the left crank-case. I will include some pictures to help you determine which engine you have. LONG CASE:   ---------------------------- Short case:   |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 17, 2014 2:40:43 GMT -5
Yeah, it looks to be accurate. Good Job!  I'm going to save that pic, .... I too like "simple" and that's an un-cluttered diagram... Nice. |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 17, 2014 2:19:37 GMT -5
Pain in the butt, perhaps. Worth $100, IMHO, absolutely! BTW- Remote start is ridiculous on a scooter, but it does impress the easily impressed!  My wife's scooter (BMS Heritage 150cc) came factory equipped with the Alarm/remote start and it turns heads every time she hits the alarm button - chirp, chirp...... The remote start is also impressive IMO. I'm going to install an alarm on the scooter in the Video I included. On Ebay, these alarms go for $20~50.00 for a decent quality unit. Price depends on if you want to wait for your order to come from China or not. (While it's not the greatest of quality, it will get the job done.) This is the Kit I ordered: LINK
It's cool this thread was started. I had already ordered the alarm about 10 days ago. I too will contribute to the thread with a little bit of of my own tutorial for certain scooters: This is a video I made illustrating factory alarm plug location: This is a wiring diagram showing how all the circuits are routed. Hope this helps! |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 16, 2014 0:27:25 GMT -5
Even with little mechanical skill its pretty easy to swap one out . there is not much to these engines . its really just plug and play as long as your swapping it out with a complete engine . they usually come ready to be bolted on and the electrical parts plugged in and its ready to go . other than an oil change. Even though it's plug and play, there's vacuum & fuel lines, wires to keep track of etc etc.... One of the most important things to keep in mind when working on the gy6 engines is that there isn't much meat on these little aluminum blocks and they strip very easy.... Seeing as how torque specs are almost non-existent, you kind of have to learn the feel with how tight you can go..... |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 15, 2014 19:36:27 GMT -5
I don't think that Samurai kit is for the GY6. I think it's specific to the Yamaha Zuma, which has a completely different engine. |
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by: dmartin95 - Dec 15, 2014 19:31:28 GMT -5
Post by dmartin95 on Dec 15, 2014 19:31:28 GMT -5
My Dad, after he retired from GM, worked at a Honda Shop (Phils Cycle, in Waterford Michigan). MY dad, bless his heart, is a small guy(5'7" 160LBs) but rides a full dresser Goldwing... He has ragged on me constantly for getting these "puny" little twist'n go scoots... "Real Men ride Motorcycles, not Mopeds - Was his motto,,,,.... I get the same crap from my older brother...... He recently came up to visit me from St Petersburg, FL. My brother came to from the other side of the state, I own 4, 150cc scooters. So, Me, Wife, Dad and Brother went out for an all day ride. About 250 miles on each scooter. MY dad enjoyed it soooooooo much, he offered to buy to one of my scoots. He's now the proud owner of my Sunny (Dongfang) 150cc. However, he does want me to beef up the motor and build it into a racing motor. I've already started and we'll be making an appearance at this years spring Twist and gone. Jeez!!! Small world!!!... I grew up in Waterford. Been into Phil's Cycle Shop numerous times looking at the beautifully restored bikes wishing I had the $$ to get one. The shop was just across the street from the parking lot of the high school I graduated from. (when it was actually still there. It was torn down & replaced with a grocery store.) Haven't been back there in a good long while, but a quick internet search shows the shop to still be in operation. Dang, but they've been around for a long time. Using Googlemaps and searching for Phil's Cycle Shop, Waterford, MI and clicking on the "take a look" or click the arrows while in street view one can look around inside of the shop. Fairly recent images.... The calendar by the front desk shows April 2014. Yep, lots of beautifully restored bikes there. Ahhhhhh yes!!! youthful nostalgia. That was nice. Thanks for the post reminding me of the good old days. I grew up in Waterford as well. Right behind Kettering... Went to Cooley elem, Pierce Mid, and Kettering High, Until I was sent to same school as you.... I had skipping problem....  But yeah, My Dad is Ron Martin, Phil's right hand man.. If Phil wasn't in there, My dad was running the shop for the past 15 years,,... Phil is a good friend of the family. Phil's cycle is very much still in Business and still pumping out frame off resto's.... Phil has received more awards than I can count. |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 15, 2014 15:01:13 GMT -5
My Dad, after he retired from GM, worked at a Honda Shop - Phil's Cycle, in Waterford Michigan). MY dad, bless his heart, is a small guy(5'7" 160LBs) but rides a full dresser Goldwing... He has ragged on me constantly for getting these "puny" little twist'n go scoots... "Real Men ride Motorcycles, not Mopeds - Was his motto,,,,.... I get the same crap from my older brother......
He recently came up to visit me from St Petersburg, FL. My brother came to from the other side of the state,
I own 4, 150cc scooters. So, Me, Wife, Dad and Brother went out for an all day ride. About 250 miles on each scooter.
MY dad enjoyed it soooooooo much, he offered to buy to one of my scoots. He's now the proud owner of my Sunny (Dongfang) 150cc. However, he does want me to beef up the motor and build it into a racing motor. I've already started and we'll be making an appearance at this years spring Twist and gone.
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 15, 2014 12:50:08 GMT -5
Mine is a chineese scooter qmb139 50cc, it looks like 4-5 mounting bolts fuel lines and electrical plugs and exhaust. I have been a mower mechanic 49 years, this is my first scooter repair What size is your rear tire and do you know if you have AC or DC CDI? I may be able to help you find a good deal on a new engine... |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 14, 2014 12:36:49 GMT -5
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/allow-motorcycle-lane-sharing-all-public-roads/qP86QbjN we petition the obama administration to: Allow motorcycle lane sharing on all public roads Lane splitting is something the rest of the world allows. In areas with congested traffic, it allows motorcycle riders to use the space in between 2 lanes of cars traveling in the same direction to advance through traffic. This act reduces car traffic because of the space a motorcycle takes up behind a car. Currently the State of California is the only place where such action is legal. We petition to make lane splitting a nationally recognized act, and to follow similar guide lines that the State of California has set forth www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/advice/a24410/motorcycle-lane-splitting-will-change-your-life-not-end-it/ Allow me to talk you into a thing: I think it's a great idea to ride a motorcycle between moving cars on a highway. Should you live east of California, this will sound nuts, but it only feels that way the first couple times you try it. Then you become an addict. On a good track day I might pass a couple guys and be damned proud I did. Lane-splitting at rush hour, I might pass 10,000 cars. Maybe more. I have no idea, and I'm not going to slow down to count. I for one am rather indifferent when it comes to lane splitting... Personally, I wouldn't do it. I think it's dangerous. However, if someone else wants to do it, more power to 'em, as long as they're not being stupid and riding a wheely while they're doing it.... But, this thread isn't about my opinion, it's about legislation.... I'm against Uncle Sam regulating things like these.... The risk is to the driver. If the driver wants to assume that risk, more power to him/her. |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 14, 2014 12:30:09 GMT -5
Is it very hard to change out a 50 cc engine, also what do they mean by short and long engines? Thanks for any help Is it hard to swap a 50cc??? That's not a yes/no answer. It depends upon a great number of variables, such as your mechanical skill set, access to tools (and perhaps a shop/garage) and one of the most important factors: How close is the donor to the original..... When it comes to these scooter engines, if you have a 10" wheel, you most likely have a short case, 12~13" most likely a long case... A 16" wheel means you have what is considered an "extra" long case. But this is meant only as a guide because you will always find exceptions to this rule. I will include a pic of the three different engines, but to be sure, get some rough measurements of your crankcase.  Other factors will be things like if the stator/magneto is wired for DC or AC, CDI. My advice is try to find the same motor you have in your existing machine. If your trying to put a GY6 into a Honda spree, you have your work cut out for you.... If it's a chinese scooter and you have a replacement thats very similar to the original, it will be rather simple. What are you working on? What type of Scooter? |
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Post by dmartin95 on Dec 11, 2014 20:59:25 GMT -5
Thanks man! I was really hoping they would have ponied up for the 30/28 mm valve heads. I still have my stock cylinder jug and will get you some numbers off of it in the morn.I can tell you from memory it doesn't seem to be much thicker. Hey Shannen, did you ever read the thread I linked to? You can always send Matt a PM to contact him, that's how I got in contact with him....I never talked to him directly about the stroker, that was cyborg, but I too would like to know his results better myself. You have a chance to get that measurement yet? |
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