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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 12, 2015 16:54:38 GMT -5
scooter jokes?
heh, heh, i got a good one for ya!
CHINESE STANDARDS ! !
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 10, 2015 3:15:48 GMT -5
eppi,
it seems rocky has confirmed it.
let us know if we got it right.
BTW, either source, PFS or scrappy, are excellent dealers.
also, if i'm not mistaken, the silver drumlike thing is part of the alternator, and probably will not be included.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 9, 2015 15:29:45 GMT -5
My budget is 650$ includeing shipping.. Found one on txpowersports.com... I owe $ on my license. In nc u dont need nooo license already checked . you didn't need a license in my state either, until recently. and you still don't, but they have passed laws that will keep you from riding a 50cc if suspended or habitual offender. i'm letting you know this because if your scoot gets impounded over licensing issues, it's quite likely you'll never see it again. about the other, you should be okay if you are reasonably capable mechanically. some of these chinese rides are fairly decent, requiring very little maintenance, others can be real nightmares to deal with. i had one of each kind, the good and the bad. the good one gave me very little problems, the bad one . . . i pushed that 300 pound hulk home more times than once, as a matter of fact i almost left it on the side of the road for dead. but i got through it, and after i did i was glad i did. yes, i would buy another one just like it, simply because i've been through the fire, i know what to expect. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 9, 2015 12:32:37 GMT -5
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 9, 2015 12:19:11 GMT -5
yy250t on one of the tags. Hmmmm. so the parts guys told me I got the wrong thing and my customer thinks he's on a 150. It is liquid cooled. maybe we are getting somewhere now.  the yy250t indicates a 250, but it certainly isn't the 244. the only other 250 i'm aware of is the 257 yamaha clone. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 9, 2015 12:11:47 GMT -5
Already have a taotao thunder 2014. It runs good but has clicking noise and funky idle... About to get manager spot at my job by january and need a super reliable scoot.. Ill have two so more parts!!! License is screwed... And i bought the thunder i got used so idk the future. Getting a whole new tool kit saturday for christmas.. Help me think red flag!, license is screwed. what exactly do you mean by this? YOUR license, or the scoots? i would certainly get the licensing issue resolved. be aware that some states have recently revamped licensing requirements for 50cc mopeds to specifically exclude anyone from riding them because they have lost their license. so, if it's your license then you need to check with your states BMV to be sure you can legally ride. if you are caught, and you are illegal due to loss of license, then you can say bye-bye to your scoot. it will be impounded, and the state will not release it until you can prove you are legal. impound fees are outrageous and are compounded daily. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 9, 2015 11:57:39 GMT -5
BZ169MM is close to the rear wheel. Otherwise this sucker is a blank canvas. or do i need to pull the cover on that side and look inside? stamped on the case in there maybe? that's where mine is located, stamped on the CVT case, and in my case it's wrong. my forte is the 244cc, so unfortunately i cannot be of much help. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 6, 2015 9:31:56 GMT -5
the fact that it will start and idle indicates the plug is good, the CDI is good, the valve lash is good.
this most likely is not an engine issue.
i still think it's the carb or bad wiring.
the engine might not be breathing properly, a restricted exhaust or intake.
to check this, unbolt both the intake and exhaust and see if that improves the situation.
another thing, if you aren't mechanically inclined, then invite a friend that is.
let them read our recommendations.
like unbolting the intake and exhaust i mentioned above, please don't do this from the engine.
it's either the carb or the wiring, i will almost bet on it.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 6, 2015 4:11:51 GMT -5
whats the engine number? John be careful. there is a big difference in a engine number, and the number stamped on the CVT case. the number stamped on my case indicates a 2 cylinder air cooled engine. the engine in my scoot is 244cc single cylinder water cooled. another shining example of those chinese standards. |
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 5, 2015 17:40:09 GMT -5
my guess is the carb jets.
the carb needs disassembled and given a thorough cleaning, especially the jets.
the wiring on some of these chinese rides are of very poor quality and can also be an issue.
i had a similar problem with my 250.
it would idle just fine, but as soon as you turned the throttle, it would bog down.
cleaning the carb fixed it.
be aware that the insides of the carb contains delicate parts and must be handled carefully.
use a guitar string to clean the jets, a bread tie might work but it will probably not be stiff enough.
electrical problems could also cause these symptoms.
a frayed wire that touches the frame could be just enough to prevent full power to the CDI, but not enough to blow a fuse.
also, it sounds like you might have gotten a "bad" scoot.
these bad ones will cause you all sorts of headaches until you iron out the problems.
i finally got tired of dealing with mine, and ripped out the wiring and "did it right".
but yeah, i'd give that carb a thorough going over.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 5, 2015 7:29:50 GMT -5
the cheapest way of increasing top end would be to increase roller weight.
however, this will only increase top end by maybe 10mph or less.
i would have to agree with changing the final drive gear ratio.
this will give maximum benefit, but would also mean readjusting roller weight to keep the engine rpm at max torque.
the problem with changing the final drive gearing is finding the gears.
i understand the desire to get more speed from your bike, but you can only get so much before you start over extending the capabilities and stability of the frame in question.
so be careful.
you can, of course, get a bigger bike.
that was the major factor of purchasing my 250, my 50cc just didn't have the speed.
i miss my "little bitty" 50cc though.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 4, 2015 19:48:38 GMT -5
another mitigating factor in all of this is "the rider blues".
it's bad enough that your ride is broken, it's even worse that your ride will be down for a length of time.
you want to ride your bike so bad it brings tears to your eyes.
you wanna ride it so bad that you would almost get on it and break out the oars.
then you get the part you ordered, GREAT JOY, I GET TO RIDE ! !
then find out it doesn't fit.
you wanna cry, you wanna rip someones head off.
who gets jumped on?
the person that sold you the part.
why?
it isn't because it didn't fit, it's because you gotta be without your ride for another week.
it's all good though.
i'm sure that most dealers that read this thread will make a double effort on their websites concerning this part.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 4, 2015 5:57:28 GMT -5
i can't remember what exactly happened to cause the loss of coolant.
i doubt if it was the clamps, the OEM clamps on my bike was fairly high quality and used two clamps in critical areas.
the most likely cause was the rotten hoses or the rotten radiator.
judging by the maintenance i put into this bike, my best guess it was the radiator, because i do remember taking it to a radiator shop to have it fixed.
how cheap was this radiator?
the person that fixed it told me to not bring it back.
on my particular ride, i noticed that car heaters cores make a very good high quality substitute.
getting them mounted was the major problem, since they didn't have any flanges, they apparently slide into place.
i had to bungee mine, which meant i had to also use ( in my case) pieces of innertube to prevent metal to metal contact.
that engine though, she sure was a tough ol' bird.
the crank journals were ball bearing instead of sleeve, which probably accounts for most of it's ruggedness.
these bearings HAD to be of very high quality to handle all of that pounding.
by all rights, i should have at least blown a head gasket, but it held.
the engine and frame were high quality stuff, it was the rest of the bike that was junk.
the wiring, switches, lights, body panels, radiators, all of it was just enough to get it out the door.
the crazy part is, i would buy another one, without hesitation.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 3, 2015 3:24:56 GMT -5
i remember riding home on mine on some rural back roads.
these roads were blacktop and straight as arrows, the perfect kind for WOT riding.
i was screaming down these roads and came to a stop sign.
when i stopped i heard a faint ticking noise, like the valves needed adjustment.
i thought, well i'll have to adjust my valves when i get home, turned left and off i went, WOT.
got a mile down the road and the scoot just slowly lost power and died.
i tried to restart it and the starter sounded like my battery was going dead.
i got to checking it out and noticed the engine was smoking, placed my hand on the radiator. it was COLD !
you talk about your stomach falling out.
i just knew i had blown my engine.
i checked the oil, and the dipstick was partially melted.
i finally got a hold of my brother in law and we trucked the scoot back to my place.
i again tried to start it, and again the starter acted like the battery was weak.
i changed the oil, removed the battery to a charger, and let the bike sit for a couple of days.
i fixed the broken hose, refilled with coolant, reinstalled the battery, and crossed my fingers.
to my absolute amazement, this engine fired right up like nothing ever happened to it.
i put many, many miles on it after that incident.
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Post by dollartwentyfive on Dec 2, 2015 8:22:45 GMT -5
The engine now used in Chinese 250 scoots was originally from the Honda Helix and was purposely designed to be under-stressed so that It could ride at or near WOT without issue. Whether the Chinese parts will hold up as well remains to be seen, but DESIGN wise it was made to do highway speeds without fail.  (On my scoot you can replace it without have to remove anything first) BTW, since the Chinese CN250 is a clone, you can substitute Honda OEM parts in critical areas. www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-14510-KM1-000.htmli had the CFmoto engine in my ride. most of the parts in this engine was made of quality material. after 10,000 miles the slip clutch shoes showed very little sign of wear, i probably could have gotten 100,000 miles out of them, no joke. the bearings used in the final drive were quality japanese bearings. the carb was japanese made. other parts weren't so good though. the infamous intake for example, i replace this thing 3 times within the first year i had my ride. i finally got my hands on a honda intake and never replaced it since. the rollers were dirt cheap garbage, they failed shortly after i got my bike. i replaced the rear pads one and the front pads 3 times. all in all, this bike was a fair good investment, i would certainly buy any and all identical bikes for the price i paid for mine. no question about it. it had the 172mm-A long case engine. |
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