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Post by ckizer on Aug 16, 2013 9:02:27 GMT -5
New Muffler has been installed. Will post pictures at lunchtime. Great trick if your exhaust studs break: use a course American threaded screw in the 6mm exhaust hole that has broken threads. Super tight and has stayed that way for 40miles! I will however be drilling them out to 8mm this week when new performance gaskets arrive. Thanks to everyone of who gave me tips. With bench drill I have to take my scooter apart? So this whole time I've been driving there were two missing exhaust frame mount bolts. I didn't know this was why the scooter felt like riding a 10 speed on gravel. After my fall last week I was beginning to think scooters were for me. Anyway replace muffler and put in two bolts, and suddenly the scooter is smooth as glass. The original bolts didn't come with it when I purchased. I would love to see what they looked like. Here's the bolts I'm talking about.  My old muffler had a broken off underside mount that hooked it to the spoke coming out of where the wheel axil is, new muffler has some additional strange bolts, but I can't figure what to hook on. Will video it and my new muffler at lunch! Thanks so much for all the pro tips. I'm going to start the REDESIGN of the scooter outside, paint, fiberglass panels, and amazing electrical mods and lighting and will be sharing pictures, and asking question in a community effort. Would love to see a picture of taotao 150cc frame if anyone has it! Let's MOD together! 
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Post by ckizer on Aug 14, 2013 13:17:52 GMT -5
[replyingto=millsc]millsc[/replyingto]Where's the fully assembled one? Are the links above those? I'm going to order a backup regardless just in case.
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Post by ckizer on Aug 14, 2013 12:56:57 GMT -5
Here's the graphic I spent an hour on at work to show you my issues, please advise. I have about 1 hour after work to use machine shop. I need it to be quiet and reliable this week. ALL SOLUTIONS and IDEAS welcome! THIS IS MY ONLY TRANSPORTATION I have a new muffler that will be here tomorrow. I want to make sure my ride is sealed up and working this week. I need it to get around. I have tons of 6mm threaded pieces I bought at Do-It-Best. - A) Weld stud #1 in place around existing head,pop out stud #2 and screw a new one in. Cry about o-ring for while hoping burned up gasket makes my ride quiet, and wait out eternity while new gasket ships.
- B) Weld stud #1 in place. Replace Stud #2, put in JBWELD inside o-ring area, and all
around gasket area to SEAL IN NOISE.Keep in Mind a new muffler is probably coming tomorrow after 2 weeks of waiting.
- C) Try to rethread holes as 8mm, but I have NO IDEA what to buy at the hardware store work to DO THIS. PLEASE TELL ME.Then pray that i don't drill into the head, and instantly ruin my ride.
- D) ORDER new head, but I STILL need a solution that will cover me for the next to days and I'd really, really like it to be quiet. It scares me when it's loud because I think it's not reliable.
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Post by ckizer on Aug 14, 2013 12:36:20 GMT -5
I'm thinking of drilling and retapping for 8mm. How do I know if the head is pre-assembled? Is the 2nd link I posted pre-assembled?
The issue is if I drill and retap for 8mm and I mess up, it will drill a hole into the head and I won't have a ride home. Sooo I'd like to order a backup head just incase.
Any suggestion on how I can drill and retap? Any youtube tutorial? How do I know that I won't go too deep?
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Post by ckizer on Aug 13, 2013 14:55:42 GMT -5
The exhaust studs are not good, i replaced them. One snapped off again. Which has enough to get a small nut on it. The otherside however screws in, and screws a little tight then if you keep screwing it goes loose again (the post). If i look up in there i see what looks like 2mm of a top of a screw head up there or something. I don't know how to get it to screw tight and the nut needs about 10 more turns to be tight enough to not leak exhaust.
Whomever designed heads with CHEEP screws that shake lose, or then snap off needs to lose there job. If i could tighten this screw I'd be golden. I even went and and tried about 20 different styles of 6mm screws nuts or other things that might work spending $30 on bolts at do-it-best hardware. It's my only vehicle right now. So if I have someone trie to tap broken stud out up there and they go to far I'm really screwed.
I just figured I'd buy a new head, and be done with it…
It's really frustrating because i just got done drilling out a screw that connects the muffler to the muffler mount so I could put a bolt in there so it wasn't shaking lose anymore. I did a terrible job with the screw extractor and just put a bolt in there to hold it tight. I don't DARE try to get 2mm of screw stuck at the top of the exhaust post inside the head out so my screw post will go in tight. It vibrates lose each time i screw it up there, and it's never all the way tight anymore :-(…
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Post by ckizer on Aug 13, 2013 14:47:41 GMT -5
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Post by ckizer on Aug 13, 2013 14:26:22 GMT -5
I have 2012 TaoTao PowerMax VIP 150cc scooter. I need a new head. I'm not sure exactly which one is correct. I think it's this one below. Is this correct? www.amazon.com/Avanti-150cc-GY6-Cylinder-Head/dp/B00475U2TS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1376421564&sr=8-1&keywords=gy6+150cc+headI am not a car/motorcycle person. I'm electrical engineer. I stripped the screws to the exhaust and since I have new exhaust coming I'd just like to repair the head so the screws fit in there again without dealing with rethreading and breaking my head in the meantime. If I buy this head, will I need to take the old head apart to put those rod looking things inside? I have a friend who owns a motorcycle shop so he will help me. Will I need anything beside a shop full of tools with this purchase? I really need to have my exhaust on tight. It's not very loud right now, but I want it tight. |
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 15:03:29 GMT -5
I cut my own flat gasket today from A chevy engine block gasket. (No O-Ring) however it's still not very quiet like it was with the O Ring. Granted I didn't go nuts with JB Weld or end-of-the-world tight because I do not want to break temporary bolts before my new ones arrive tomorrow.
Just disappointed that it's not quieter. So I bough the performance gasket and the O-Ring kind as backup. Do you want me to mail you one of them? I'll have about 4 extra O-rings. If you need one let me know.
I guess I figured I'd put both an O-Ring on and the other gasket, but I didn't want it to overheat the engine. It probably wouldn't start if it couldn't push out enough air right? Like a potato in the tail pipe?
Sorry for my ignorance. let me know if you want me to mail you an o-ring I got extra!
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 14:35:15 GMT -5
I'm having a good day so far, I managed to get the broken Exhaust Bolt out of the engine! I even cut a gasket from large engine block gasket material. It's still loud without the O ring.
I'll have the stock O-Ring and a Fancy gasket tomorrow. Can I use both the O-Ring and the Gasket or is this bad for my muffler?
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 10:00:35 GMT -5
Okay so I bought everything EXCEPT the muffler (mine is still good). Lots of extra gaskets both the O type, and the standard type. I assume you only use one or the other right? I would never use the o-ring gasket + the flange type gasket together? Which one is better (I bought both)
Anyway You know everyone is generously overcharging (The first scooter store to actually participate in Amazon Prime will be million dollars a day) when you pay $58 shipping for $34 of parts.
My total was $80 out the door for some gaskets and bolts.
What does the bracket look like on the far end of the muffler?
This part is missing too and I'd like to replace it. The front bracket is good though.
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 9:18:34 GMT -5
I do not like the price for overnight shipping for anything. I wanted to buy the MRP exhaust for my ITA150, but the shipping from any dealer who listed it wanted at least $35 for normal shipping. Forget about any sort of rush. I ordered an exhaust from Puerto Rico with free shipping and had it in maybe 4 days. Ordered another for scooter #2 and had that one in less than a week. jeepsteve92xj: Any recommendation on a exhaust system for my bike? I'm trying to keep it around $100 Here is the muffler I have now  |
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 9:16:09 GMT -5
[replyingto=salracer]sailracer[/replyingto]$35 for shipping is great with me. This scooter is my ONLY transportation.
It will cost me $48 ONE way to cab ride to my house.
Please any of the vendors if you see my thread contact me. I'll pay the shipping. I still haven't found anyone who will do what I need!
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 8:31:52 GMT -5
SailRacer: www.partsforscooters.com/Welcome?search=mufflerThat's a link to the stuff I'm looking at. Does anyone want to recommend me a muffler? I have the cheepo stock one that comes with my scooter. I'd like to keep my order under $100. What's the best muffler I can get? I'm only ordering a new muffler because I want all the mounts and gaskets. My current muffler has some rust, so I figure I'll make it beautiful and keep it as a backup muffler. Mostly the mounts are the important part. |
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 8:29:57 GMT -5
I will call partsforscooters and ask. I'd really prefer fedex overnight. Mail delivery in my area means route isn't done till 4:30pm and post office closes at 4:30pm… meaning literally you can't ever pickup most packages unless you take a full day off work.
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Post by ckizer on Aug 8, 2013 7:48:11 GMT -5
Very cool! Can you keep posting pictures as you tear it down? I've never gotten to see what my scooter frame looks like and I someday I want to tear it down for a paint job.
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